This is where I'm at right now, I've used 1 restore from shield. How am I doing for 'on par' for a normal first time cape? I understand some people can flick the first 50 waves or some shit, but I cannot do that.. I'm barely understanding blobs xD

Still have all other supplies.

no idea on answer, looks impressive to me tho

is the only one i know of that has done a few capes for himself
he might have some insight

doing fine based on that, don't be afraid to use supplies especially learning
for actual advice on the waves themselves maybe ask charlie he has a lot of experience
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=83152827&f=267

I know you’re an infernal legend, but I’m a noob. Thoughts?

in the picture above, you're doing great. if you can get to wave 31 (the first mager) using only a couple doses of restore (like 4) then you're on great pace in terms of restores
with acb and blowpipe, you're going to have to do a lot of prayer conservation



i sent this to someone not too long ago

#1 piece of advice: Inferno is a test of your ability to make decisions quickly, and don't chase the nibblers into dangerous situations

Practice by getting to wave 4 where there's a single blob and learning how to 1t alternating flick (mage-range-mage-range) and 2t flick (mage-mage-range-range). Once you get the timing down on that, you can use both of those flicks to deal with ranger + blob and/or mager + blob.

Then you'll need to learn how the meleer burrows. If you're on the north face of the northeast pillar when it burrows, it'll burrow onto the north face, and you can safespot it by going to the west face and standing on the center tile there. If the meleer burrows on you while you're on the west face, you can safespot it by going to the northwest corner of the north face, or by going to the center tile of the south face. If the meleer burrows on you while you're on the east side of the pillar, and you run to the north face, it will turn the northeast corner and chase you. If you can get to the northeast corner of the north face before the meleer is done burrowing onto the east side of the pillar, then you can corner safe spot it by going 1-3 tiles north.
tl;dr: don't kill the meleer on wave 9 or whatever, just practice moving around the pillar as little as possible to keep it safespotted (don't run around the pillar like crazy because that's how you'll die on the later waves)

You can't prayer flick blobs + meleers at the same time, so you'll have to safespot the meleer for these waves, or run out of the line of sight of both the blobs. Wave 15 is double blobs + meleer and is regarded as one of the hardest waves. All waves with a meleer and double blobs are scary.

Once you've mastered all of the above, you'll be prepared to tackle waves 50+, where you're going to have a mager and a ranger spawn at the same time. The key to waves 50-56 is knowing that you'll always be able to trap one monster behind a pillar, or both. Then you'll need to learn how to deal with "stacks" of monsters. A guide to stacks can be found here: https://discord.gg/wdr under the inferno section

They have a #inferno discussion area where you can ask all your questions. They also have a written text guide. I've never read the whole text guide, but it's a good reference for the stacks because it has gifs of all the solutions.

You're gonna have to practice the inferno a lot in order to do it with ease. It's going to be stressful and it's going to get scary at the higher waves. Just watch lots of streamers, and ask them lots of questions during their runs. Don't watch people who are learning inferno themselves because they're 9 out of 10 times doing it wrong lol.

Best of luck!

e/ OH! and take pictures of your deaths so you can analyze what you could have done to stay alive.
always, always, always look at the entire cave at the start of the wave when you cast your first ice barrage on the nibblers, and try to memorize where everything spawned. don't stand there trying to freeze the nibblers again & again if you're going to take damage.

This post was edited by xcharliex on Nov 23 2020 10:44pm

You mean wave 35 (for first mager)?

And, yeah I've tried to think about what to do differently for my deaths. Most of it is bad decision making calls. I have seen some of the stacks and the 1t/2t blobs. But it's the start of the attack that gets me. If they spawn in the south west corner, I'm not sure if they start the attack 6t cycle, or if they are out of range or not.

Also, I don't know how to zoom to see the entire cave, i see like 7/8 maybe? (normal size as you can see in the pic).

if the monsters spawn far away, run behind the pillar and drag them all to you
and if you can see 7/8, that's perfect

Alright. I saw one post in the wdr a few days ago of a guy who took a s/s of the entire thing from a bird eye view. Didn’t know if that’s what you meant.