Quote (justinnnnn1122 @ Sep 29 2016 01:16pm)

10/10 thread ty chubby

Quote (Chubby @ Sep 29 2016 01:14pm)

I have no real side to take, either he did it or he didn't. Why do you think in my 8 years here on JSP, and doing transactions of 10's of millions of FG, there has never been a user on my accounts?

What I want to point out is who is really at fault? Any person who is willing to give multiple people access to an account at once is doing so at their own risk. ESPECIALLY when they are doing it through means that is impossible to prove or disprove. A user intentionally side steps D2JSP policy by doing transactions through outside communication, but comes to D2JSP to try and enforce that transaction's failure as a failure to comply with rules set by JSP?

That would be like me going to France as an American, shooting someone, and citing the "Stand your ground" policy fromTexas. It's stupid, makes no sense, and I am going to jail because I am an idiot.

The user has clearly disregarded all policies and rules that JSP has set up to protect themselves and the other users, but has come back to try and enforce those rules. Who's to say that he even had other people outside of JSP with access to the account, but kokua happens to be the only guy he can actually try to persue for repayment, so he did it?

What's the odds rocktaze got scammed by his friend that lives down the street?



So that's a no, you have nothing else to bring to the table.

Thanks for your input there little guy, it's about time for your feeding, go find mommy.

:rolleyes:

Quote (Jynthe @ Sep 29 2016 01:11pm)

I wonder if rocktaze had enough proof to get kukoa locked, rules regarding runescape S/A's are so vague

We need:

Clearer rules about what it takes to proof a Runescape scam
Scammer accusations about Runescape should be dealt with by people who play the game, because in Dave's case the mod had no clue what he was doing

Like: - Only responsible for up to 500m, or something (I don't see anyone repaying over 15k fg anyway)
- Untradeables like cwar tickets should have no value

Quote (justinnnnn1122 @ Sep 29 2016 01:16pm)

10/10 thread ty chubby

Quote (Justin @ Sep 29 2016 02:17pm)

No problem twin

Quote (seyda need @ Sep 29 2016 02:57pm)

yet he wasnt upset enough to follow sa instructions...

Quote (Jynthe @ Sep 29 2016 03:11pm)

I wonder if rocktaze had enough proof to get kukoa locked, rules regarding runescape S/A's are so vague

We need:

Clearer rules about what it takes to proof a Runescape scam
Scammer accusations about Runescape should be dealt with by people who play the game, because in Dave's case the mod had no clue what he was doing

Like: - Only responsible for up to 500m, or something (I don't see anyone repaying over 15k fg anyway)
- Untradeables like cwar tickets should have no value

Quote (The_Carlton @ Aug 30 2016 03:37am)

The issue here is that your account had 150M in items on it, and that's what Dave owes you. Apparently the 150M in items aren't even documented, so him offering to repay that is overkill.

To my knowledge, there is no precedent for repaying the value of an account, or repaying the value of untradable, purely cosmetic "worthless" items, IE CW tickets.


I 100% would agree with you if you said that Dave owes you 150M.

I 100% would disagree with you if you said that Dave owes you 500M.

I'd call you a fucking retard if you thought your CW armors (which you spent what, 40 hours on?) were worth 2B.


Probably here is you're going for #2/#3, not #1. And for whatever reason, the SA handler is too.. Since when the fuck does a Tweet change how SAs work? What incentive does Weath have to spend his time to help you out in resolving a case in the scumbag underbelly of RuneScape cheaitng? Why is he relevant on JSP?


Just so I'm 100% fucking clear: I don't know you, I don't have any issues with you other than you're trying to bend the norm here. What is repaid, in every case I've ever seen and I'm open to the possibility that I'm wrong, is what you could take from that account and throw on JSP to turn into FG. You could not turn your stats into FG, you could not turn your CW tickets into FG. There is no tangiable value for CW armor, and it's certainly not worth 2B. Sorry for your loss, but IMO you're being fucking ridiculous. You lost 150M in repayable wealth, nothing more. Dave offered 26K-30K repay? ~200M is fair. It won't fix everything but his job isn't to fix everything. You can't just take zero fucking responsibility for the fact you came on jsp and had someone do a levelling job.. We both KNOW Dave wasn't fucking botting. He's done 2B XP for people on JSP and you're the first to get banned..... That's a fucking amazing bot if he's got one. Would make far more just selling his script tbh

Quote (R0cktaze @ Dec 25 2013 04:40pm)

butthurt? I'm not the wanna be mod ass licking faggot

Quote (Pantera @ Sep 29 2016 04:32pm)

Dave didn't even have the rights to post in the S/A topic.

Would you feel fully responsible for something you didn't do? All you can do is assume in Dave's situation.
Did Dave bot? It's a possibility. I don't think so though. he's done over 2b melee exp on jsp alone, nobody else has been banned during his service. Let's say he was botting though, Why would Dave bot nmz. he's making 200k GP an hour, if that off his service. Why wouldn't he bot an actual service that makes more gp an hour than that? Or just straight out scam, he was one the biggest traders in a few sections, other than RS. guy dealt with a lot of FG per day.
Did Hugger bot? No idea, it's a possibility though. Hugger did have access to his own account during the job.
Did Runescape bot detection system fail? Also a possibility. Linx Titan has been wrongfully banned 3 times, and unbanned. https://twitter.com/Lynx_Titan07/status/732911595119083520



Dave didn't even get the rights to post on the S/A topic. I've seen people full out admit to scamming yet get to defend themselves, why was Dave's case different?
Why didn't an actual RS mod cover his case, rather then a mod that has no clue about RS?



I feel the same way as Ish on this