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Apr 6 2011 07:40pm
Quote (Nex @ Apr 6 2011 07:34pm)
In any case, I wouldn't use divine at nex anyway, cuz deflector n arma top


I'm pretty sure your account can't even fucking get up to Nex, let alone you start telling me you're captain badass.


I do 5-6 man teams. We don't use Void, because we typically have a SOL tank. If you don't know why void affects SOL tanking, then just back arrow, and edit your post to a period. In teams of that size, the Divines do help, quite a bit. It's nothing gamebreaking, as a lot of her attacks aren't counted as attacks, but just damage, but it helps a lot whilst tanking, and during the Smoke/Shadow stages specifically. NTM Less healing on Blood, due to 30% reduction.


If you're going to go OTG/PID and just brute fucking force it, for a 5M Split on every fucking item, then Yeah, use a deflector. Have fun going with PID though, as clan requirements are you pretty much choke down Legendarys dick. See: 'No one is allowed to bring recover specs, but me. They use Divines/Karils, and I use void with Pernix Body. No splitting.'


Fair Nex --> 5-6 man, divine, etc. Split.
Nex with Void --> 20 man, 5M splits, and/or choking down dick.

No homo. I'll go w/Fair.

Quote (SoftSpeaker @ Apr 6 2011 07:36pm)
how is deflector and top better then void and divine?

i'm not saying you're wrong, i'm just curious.


A bit higher DPS, but you can't really support it as well in small teams. You need a bigger team, and you just brute force it.

I prefer smaller teams with the group I go with, and actually working to improve our setups, and learn more about the boss. Instead of just, 'Alright, let's do this, get 20 guys here, and just fuck it up.' Not to talk down the American method, but I just think ours may be a little better here.


This post was edited by The_Carlton on Apr 6 2011 07:43pm
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Quote (The_Carlton @ Apr 6 2011 08:40pm)
I'm pretty sure your account can't even fucking get up to Nex, let alone you start telling me you're captain badass.


I do 5-6 man teams. We don't use Void, because we typically have a SOL tank. If you don't know why void affects SOL tanking, then just back arrow, and edit your post to a period. In teams of that size, the Divines do help, quite a bit. It's nothing gamebreaking, as a lot of her attacks aren't counted as attacks, but just damage, but it helps a lot whilst tanking, and during the Smoke/Shadow stages specifically. NTM Less healing on Blood, due to 30% reduction.


If you're going to go OTG/PID and just brute fucking force it, for a 5M Split on every fucking item, then Yeah, use a deflector. Have fun going with PID though, as clan requirements are you pretty much choke down Legendarys dick. See: 'No one is allowed to bring recover specs, but me. They use Divines/Karils, and I use void with Pernix Body. No splitting.'


Fair Nex --> 5-6 man, divine, etc. Split.
Nex with Void --> 20 man, 5M splits, and/or choking down dick.

No homo. I'll go w/Fair.



eagle eye shield?
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Quote (The_Carlton @ Apr 6 2011 07:40pm)
I'm pretty sure your account can't even fucking get up to Nex, let alone you start telling me you're captain badass.


I do 5-6 man teams.  We don't use Void, because we typically have a SOL tank.  If you don't know why void affects SOL tanking, then just back arrow, and edit your post to a period.  In teams of that size, the Divines do help, quite a bit.  It's nothing gamebreaking, as a lot of her attacks aren't counted as attacks, but just damage, but it helps a lot whilst tanking, and during the Smoke/Shadow stages specifically.  NTM Less healing on Blood, due to 30% reduction.


If you're going to go OTG/PID and just brute fucking force it, for a 5M Split on every fucking item, then Yeah, use a deflector.  Have fun going with PID though, as clan requirements are you pretty much choke down Legendarys dick.  See:  'No one is allowed to bring recover specs, but me.  They use Divines/Karils, and I use void with Pernix Body.  No splitting.'


Fair Nex --> 5-6 man, divine, etc.  Split.
Nex with Void --> 20 man, 5M splits, and/or choking down dick.

No homo.  I'll go w/Fair.


iso explanations on sol tanking etc
never been to nex, doubt i ever will but that boss is intriguing
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Apr 6 2011 07:45pm
Need a vid of your team ripping up Nex.
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Apr 6 2011 07:47pm
Quote (Unanswered @ Apr 6 2011 07:42pm)
eagle eye shield?


Eagle eye is just an unholy book with Soak.

Nex pretty much ignores your defense, as most hits are precalculated. For example, the 'Fear the Shadow' attack. That attack has a cap damage, and isn't an overkill. Say you're 480 HP, and she casts it. If you brew, after it appears, it will deal a 480, and not kill you. The damage is figured out before the attack hits, and it ignores all of your gear. The only reason why Eagle Eye is used, is for the +4 Ranged attack. The Soaking bonuses are negligible.


With damage being capped at 500, strength bonus is also useless. This is why a DFS is worthless. It increases your max hit, which doesn't help anywhere but minions, which get dropped in 5 seconds. It soaks absolutely no damage, which, if it did, wouldn't even be too helpful. And the defense is ignored.

Divines and Elysians are really nice, only because of the damage removing ability. If she completely ignored Divines and Elys, I'd be down there with an unholy.



There's a lot of info coming in about nex, every day. Just yesterday I learned, (While it was known in our team, but some dickhead didn't admit it) that Nex has a relatively low defense level - But she has ridiculous equipment stats. If you SWH her, it barely does anything. Drops her defense, but not her armor stats. Good to see Jagex dodge that one. Could have been as bad as corp. (Another reason why accuracy bonus > Strength down there.)

Quote (deficerico @ Apr 6 2011 07:42pm)
iso explanations on sol tanking etc
never been to nex, doubt i ever will but that boss is intriguing


Uh, basically, in the Zaros stage she attacks whoever has the lowest magic defense. This is why Void isn't used on our teams. If you're in void, you're on DPS Duty, not tank duty.

So what you do, basically, is if you're a designated tank, you remove your Top and Bottom, and leave on your Divine. Then you pray Melee (Which lowers your Magic Defense, compared to everyone else protecting Magic) which further lowers her hits. She can melee around 380. Once you run that through a Staff of Light special, a Divine, and protect from melee, it's down to something in the 10 zone usually.

Helps a lot. If you don't have a SOL tank, she'll usually pick on one person, until someone else fucks up, and then jump to them. Every hit SOL Tanking saves like.. Probably half a dose of brew. That's a good bit, especially if you have a slow last form. (Like you do in smaller teams.)

TL;DR It reduces damage.

Quote (Fooba @ Apr 6 2011 07:45pm)
Need a vid of your team ripping up Nex.


I think we've got one somewhere. I know one dumbass went to solo. Second person to ever get to blood solo, but he's still a dumbass. Missed gloves off Umbra.

This post was edited by The_Carlton on Apr 6 2011 07:51pm
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Apr 6 2011 07:53pm
Quote (The_Carlton @ Apr 6 2011 08:47pm)
Eagle eye is just an unholy book with Soak.

Nex pretty much ignores your defense, as most hits are precalculated. For example, the 'Fear the Shadow' attack. That attack has a cap damage, and isn't an overkill. Say you're 480 HP, and she casts it. If you brew, after it appears, it will deal a 480, and not kill you. The damage is figured out before the attack hits, and it ignores all of your gear. The only reason why Eagle Eye is used, is for the +4 Ranged attack. The Soaking bonuses are negligible.


With damage being capped at 500, strength bonus is also useless. This is why a DFS is worthless. It increases your max hit, which doesn't help anywhere but minions, which get dropped in 5 seconds. It soaks absolutely no damage, which, if it did, wouldn't even be too helpful. And the defense is ignored.

Divines and Elysians are really nice, only because of the damage removing ability. If she completely ignored Divines and Elys, I'd be down there with an unholy.



There's a lot of info coming in about nex, every day. Just yesterday I learned, (While it was known in our team, but some dickhead didn't admit it) that Nex has a relatively low defense level - But she has ridiculous equipment stats. If you SWH her, it barely does anything. Drops her defense, but not her armor stats. Good to see Jagex dodge that one. Could have been as bad as corp. (Another reason why accuracy bonus > Strength down there.)



Uh, basically, in the Zaros stage she attacks whoever has the lowest magic defense. This is why Void isn't used on our teams. If you're in void, you're on DPS Duty, not tank duty.

So what you do, basically, is if you're a designated tank, you remove your Top and Bottom, and leave on your Divine. Then you pray Melee (Which lowers your Magic Defense, compared to everyone else protecting Magic) which further lowers her hits. She can melee around 380. Once you run that through a Staff of Light special, a Divine, and protect from melee, it's down to something in the 10 zone usually.

Helps a lot. If you don't have a SOL tank, she'll usually pick on one person, until someone else fucks up, and then jump to them. Every hit SOL Tanking saves like.. Probably half a dose of brew. That's a good bit, especially if you have a slow last form. (Like you do in smaller teams.)

TL;DR It reduces damage.



I think we've got one somewhere. I know one dumbass went to solo. Second person to ever get to blood solo, but he's still a dumbass. Missed gloves off Umbra.


iso guide explaining everything about nex lol

this is all interesting info
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Apr 6 2011 07:56pm
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iso guide explaining everything about nex lol

this is all interesting info


Guides and Videos won't really teach you or thoroughly explain anything.

All you can do is man the fuck up, and get down there with us, Mitch.
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Apr 6 2011 07:58pm
otg and pid dont use 20 man teams ish, pretty sure everyone only does 6-8 man teams :p
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Quote (DatDudeJay @ Apr 6 2011 07:58pm)
otg and pid dont use 20 man teams ish, pretty sure everyone only does 6-8 man teams :p


Haven't seen much of OTG, but I remember seeing a pretty large team down there the other day. Was at least a 10 man, and they had some fucking spectrals. Was terrible.

PID though, I mean, fuck them. Legendary disgusts me. Guys a straight up downie, and the people he Nexes with are dicklickers.
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Apr 6 2011 08:01pm
Quote (The_Carlton @ Apr 6 2011 09:00pm)
Haven't seen much of OTG, but I remember seeing a pretty large team down there the other day.  Was at least a 10 man, and they had some fucking spectrals.  Was terrible.

PID though, I mean, fuck them.  Legendary disgusts me.  Guys a straight up downie, and the people he Nexes with are dicklickers.


joh is a cum stain on the sheets of life, i agree there and i think they were cs massing there for some weird reason this week.
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