A lot of the time it's a lot more different than that. At least in terms of being a service owner>hiring workers to actually work under you, not just some random person who you send info to on the anon.


I have always been quite iffy about multiple people being on service requests at once, and even on the odd occasion that a customer has asked in the past, I have always said i'm against it in a way because I wouldn't want to see them potentially being locked/banned because in many cases people do also buy accounts, which unless they directly speak to the OO (in most cases anyway another being OO) it can be very hard and sometimes time consuming to actually get unlocked/unbanned

I think it goes without saying, even if it was ruled out in a specific way that doesn't harm either party, but has to be monitored or such then it's like hey what more can we do in a way. You strip one the other is gonna be pissed and that's the end of it really :\ , no win scenario for either side. I do however think that the whole comment regarding the service provider etc (yes it would be classed as service provider>service worker, not owner>provider) should be held accountable after all that is what we receive deposits for and such as well.

On other sites, sure. But this is D2jsp, where we are a pretty tightknit community, which is where most of us actually care about things. Imo each worker should be a part of the community. You're the closest I've came to offering a job but simply because I didn't know you personally, I opted to not.
If you're not on D2jsp and I can't see how you conduct yourself as a person outside of simply showing completed jobs, then I have no incentive to ever want to use said person regardless of deposits. To me it's the feeling of being violated that is worse than losing 100s of mils - tens of bils.

Say I was employed by Infernopure22 and you didn't know any of us.

You'd have to be completely comfortable having both Infernopure22 and myself having your account info, even though you've never heard of me before + having the knowledge that Infernopure22 wouldn't be the one working.


It's like "Hey nice to meet you for the 1st time, here's my account info because your boss said you can do it!"

/end scenario

And now given that chain of events we have the Expos/R0cktaze event unfolding.

I've even told inferno if I ever give him work, that I'd need proof it was him specifically on the account via things like streaming entire screen (not just the tab for runelite, this way I can see him looking at my DMs to him in real time/voice chat.

Edit: @ the beginning part, this was conversations I had about you prior to you making an account here also, just to clarify.

This post was edited by Vilify on Mar 8 2023 05:16pm

I fully agree with you there man, it's hard sometimes to know someone or get to know someone when you don't actually know anything about them. And being that in such cases like myself i'm the "new guy" if you will it can come across worrying at times. I do understand your opinion on every worker should be part of the website however at the same time with the amount of harassment we receive in return is it really worth us asking them? Imagine, you see our workers being 2023 joined users and majority start abusing them because of it, I pointed this out earlier as well.

I think what a lot of people forget, not all of us are scammers and some of us do have teams and that's with good reason. At the moment I would say it's a mixture of 50/50 on who is doing what (not quite 50/50 but you get my drift) but like anything else in life you're always going to get the one bad egg or in cases say like Expo's report, and others similar to him MANY bad eggs lol.

And nah, you're wrong about the information part. Whilst i'm not sure where you got the part of more than one person knowing your information, for me at least and the way I operate only one person has your information at all times. I would never expect more than one person to be on my own account if I was receiving training, that is unless I specified it to them and requested it under certain conditions. What you said at the bottom is actually a good point, I have personally done that with customers even more so recently with seeing how dodgy people are and how quickly it's evolving to "who can scam the most" it seems. Not to mention some people actually do live stream in private calls in their servers from what I have seen without joining the calls/public calls (this includes them raiding and such too, they stream their raids)

Just gotta tell everyone to shrug off the noobie hate and ignore the trolls. Jsp is actually one of the worst forums I've seen in terms of trolls on a gaming platform. Perhaps due to the large number of users, but on other forums like for Median XL D2 mod and whatnot, every single post you find there is respectable and there's no hur hur durrs to be seen. Tell them to only respond to potential customers and that it's a time investment but the community is very well worth being a part of in the long run if they want work. There's a lot of $$$ around jsp in terms of jobs if you get the needed JSP reputation. Most here don't give two shits about off-site vouches from off-site people they don't know.

Part of what you said is the issue. The main issue you will find not just with this community, but any community for that matter is reputation. Reputation is gained from doing valid trades, for me valid trades have to mean something, like I have said before I have done work for myself and so have my workers, along side but even then, I haven't gone out of my way to ask either to specifically vouch for me you know? I tag people i have traded if asked sure but beyond that I don't know much about the forums and where to go with such information so I can present that like a vouch thread when required.

And nah, a lot of the stuff on here is basic childish mentality. I have witnessed and been part of much worse on another forum that has now been shut down by jagex (PB), the stuff you saw and heard on there was much worse. We had a guy who would upload pictures of him being recorded chasing people with machetes, carving people from the forums names into his skin/penis and such. That was the forum you didn't truly want to be a part of lol.

Who knows, maybe i'll look into diablo stuff, as I am a small fish in that area due to playing it on PS4, but i'm not too sure. But then again we all have to start somewhere, and for me at least i'm a patient person, and do actually do work myself not everything is requested via my workers. I have gained plenty of feedback/vouches or whatever by solo trading, and in fact my first thousand and some (I know you said offsite doesn't really matter here) actually was from me solo doing it. There is money where there needs to be money given the right situation, but you need to be smart and not a complete scum bag about things (like Expo lmao) otherwise you end up back at square one.

yup just be smarter than expo

This post was edited by Bradleyk on Mar 8 2023 05:45pm

Ah so my 4 year old daughter would be fine then.



The problem is, valid trades that aren't logged on this site aren't generally cared about by this community. People can hand me vouches from rands all they want, but I'd need someone super close to me personally to actually vouch for them to even be considered. Vouches from 2022's who havent logged in the past 6 months don't really mean a thing whatsoever. I'm speaking of my own stipulations of course, but I do see this mirrored throughout the community here and have been here long enough so I'd like to think what I've seen from personal experience can be vouched for by a large part of this community. (Besides throwaway/new accounts that people don't have any attachment to of course.)

But say, running 100 CG for someone is cool, but it requires no bank access, so it's not really a good measure of someone's trustworthiness, just a measure of their ability to do a piece of game content.

What if you do thieving for an entire week with bank access and had no idea there was a tbow in bank because you only looked for wines and dodgy necklaces?

you guys are transparent about who the workers are / who will be doing the service, which the teams using vennies aren't, which is the overall problem with services

I voted yes.
Its your pick Who you let on your account.
If its a service team, make sure you know whos in the team, and see if you trust them all.
If you simply dont trust one of the users then dont accept the team service.

Best way would be to make sure all use the site.
Simply useing a service provide who hires people you dont know seems very strange to me.
You go out and mabye even pay more for a service provider you find trusted as you used him before or was told by friends etc that its a good person
If that person then hires people you dont know, then all the effort you put into gettin a user you deem trusted is gone.

Know who you are hireing as a team, and not just the front person.

Best regards staking