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Jun 27 2011 03:49pm
Quote (The_Carlton @ Jun 27 2011 10:47pm)
Some shit like 1.5-2M + 1 hour of time.


you love to burn money, dont you? -_-
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Jun 27 2011 03:49pm
Quote (Ameziz @ Jun 27 2011 05:46pm)
so ish, how much does 1 effigy cost ?

cause you paying in pray pots, cannonballs...


Went and did some Math and shit, to see if it was worth my time, and if so, how worth it, to hit up the Cave Crawlers until I'm absolutely maxed. (Of course, leaving out Dungeoneering.)

If any smart fucks (IE: Keith) could give it a look over, and LMK if I fucked anything up, would be appreciated. As of now, it would appear as if I'll max at ~166% speed, if I hit up the crawlers, funding the habit VIA Nex, instead of train 'Legit'.

Should be a little better, as Effigies are ~50-55 minutes, but uh, add in Banking, and bi-triply faps, and we get ~1 hour per.





Effigies

Dragonkin Lamp AVG: (Level 94.5, since I'm 90, averaging for 99. *This will be slightly off, as as your level increases, the number of lamps increase aswell. ~13 Lamps for 90-91, ~18 for 98-99)


Eiffgy Skills:

*Agility/Crafting
*Thieving/Construction
*Firemaking/Cooking
*Fishing/Farming
*Woodcutting/Fletching
*Hunter/Herblore
*Mining/Smithing
*Runecrafting/Summoning





Hourly XP rates:

Agility (With brawlers, since I have 800 pairs) 150K
Runecrafting: 37.5K
Thieving: 250K
Firemaking: 360K
Fishing: 80K
Woodcutting: 100K
Hunter: 240K
Mining: 80K

XP per effigy: 90,000 + Lamp

XP:skill:effigy 90,000 / 8 --> 11,250





11,250 XP takes..

Agility: 269 Seconds
Thieving: 162 Seconds
Firemaking: 112 Seconds
Fishing: 506 Seconds
Woodcutting: 405 Seconds
Hunter: 168 Seconds
Mining: 506 Seconds
Runecrafting: 1,080 Seconds



Time saved per effigy:

(269 + 162 + 112 + 506 + 405 + 168 + 506 + 1080 + 575 (*Note: 575 was added in after original math was done. Reprensentitive of the amount of time saved, hourly, gaining RC XP VIA Effigies, as opposed to crawlers.) = 3,783 Seconds (63.05 Minutes)

Also, Runecrafting hourly XP rate while using effigies is ~6K above the ZMI Rate.


Time saved: Per effigy: ~63 Minutes. Max @ double speed.



Skills not needed, and time therefore not saved: Firemaking, Woodcutting. Remove: 112 + 405 = 517 Seconds.

Time saved: 3783 seconds - 517 seconds = 3,266 seconds = 54.4333 Minutes of 'in general' skilling.






Price:

Hourly rate of Cave Crawlers:

3 Overloads
10% Rapier Charge
5,000 Cannonballs
250 SOL Scrolls
~25K MISC.

3 Overloads: (Pre-made, free) 180K
10% Rapier charge: 200K
5,000 Cannonballs: 1100K
250 SOL Scrolls: 125K
~25K MISC.: 25K

Total: 1,630K

***Forgot to factor in Prayer Potions, but they'd almost fall under Misc. 20 Prayer Potions is around 70K now days, so I'm not too worried. WCS, count them in with the Overloads, as they could be considered Free. Won't be needing more.

Hourly income:

Source: Nex
Average unique drop value: (Total value of all of the unique nex drops: 3,002,300,000 GP / 10) = 302,230,000GP
KPPH: 1
DR: 30

1 / 30 = 0.0333333333 * 302,230,000 = 10,074,333.3 GP

^ Will be 10-20% off, due to randomization of drops, and, from personal experience, Bodies being more rare than Legs/Helmets. If I had to guess, the actual figure would be closer to 7.5M, after including small drop splits. And removing potion pricing.


Time consumption per effigy: 7,500K / 1,630K = 4.60122699 Effigies afforded per hour.

Time per effigy spent Nexing: 13.04 Minutes
Time per effigy saved, after deducting time spent nexing, and skills not needed to max: 54.4333 - 13.04 = 41.393 Minutes

**Not factored in is the chance of an Effigy from nex. I'm the tank though, so it doesn't really matter. ~1% chance at a kill.




Worth doing Cave Crawlers until maxed: Yes.
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Jun 27 2011 03:51pm
ish is the man

you just told me a way to get 99 rc without quitting after 5k rc exp O.O
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Jun 27 2011 03:52pm
12m?
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Jun 27 2011 03:58pm
Quote (Buffjesus @ Jun 27 2011 09:49pm)
Went and did some Math and shit, to see if it was worth my time, and if so, how worth it, to hit up the Cave Crawlers until I'm absolutely maxed. (Of course, leaving out Dungeoneering.)

If any smart fucks (IE: Keith) could give it a look over, and LMK if I fucked anything up, would be appreciated. As of now, it would appear as if I'll max at ~166% speed, if I hit up the crawlers, funding the habit VIA Nex, instead of train 'Legit'.

Should be a little better, as Effigies are ~50-55 minutes, but uh, add in Banking, and bi-triply faps, and we get ~1 hour per.





Effigies

Dragonkin Lamp AVG: (Level 94.5, since I'm 90, averaging for 99. *This will be slightly off, as as your level increases, the number of lamps increase aswell. ~13 Lamps for 90-91, ~18 for 98-99)


Eiffgy Skills:

*Agility/Crafting
*Thieving/Construction
*Firemaking/Cooking
*Fishing/Farming
*Woodcutting/Fletching
*Hunter/Herblore
*Mining/Smithing
*Runecrafting/Summoning





Hourly XP rates:

Agility (With brawlers, since I have 800 pairs) 150K
Runecrafting: 37.5K
Thieving: 250K
Firemaking: 360K
Fishing: 80K
Woodcutting: 100K
Hunter: 240K
Mining: 80K

XP per effigy: 90,000 + Lamp

XP:skill:effigy 90,000 / 8 --> 11,250





11,250 XP takes..

Agility: 269 Seconds
Thieving: 162 Seconds
Firemaking: 112 Seconds
Fishing: 506 Seconds
Woodcutting: 405 Seconds
Hunter: 168 Seconds
Mining: 506 Seconds
Runecrafting: 1,080 Seconds



Time saved per effigy:

(269 + 162 + 112 + 506 + 405 + 168 + 506 + 1080 + 575 (*Note: 575 was added in after original math was done. Reprensentitive of the amount of time saved, hourly, gaining RC XP VIA Effigies, as opposed to crawlers.) = 3,783 Seconds (63.05 Minutes)

Also, Runecrafting hourly XP rate while using effigies is ~6K above the ZMI Rate.


Time saved: Per effigy: ~63 Minutes. Max @ double speed.



Skills not needed, and time therefore not saved: Firemaking, Woodcutting. Remove: 112 + 405 = 517 Seconds.

Time saved: 3783 seconds - 517 seconds = 3,266 seconds = 54.4333 Minutes of 'in general' skilling.






Price:

Hourly rate of Cave Crawlers:

3 Overloads
10% Rapier Charge
5,000 Cannonballs
250 SOL Scrolls
~25K MISC.

3 Overloads: (Pre-made, free) 180K
10% Rapier charge: 200K
5,000 Cannonballs: 1100K
250 SOL Scrolls: 125K
~25K MISC.: 25K

Total: 1,630K

***Forgot to factor in Prayer Potions, but they'd almost fall under Misc. 20 Prayer Potions is around 70K now days, so I'm not too worried. WCS, count them in with the Overloads, as they could be considered Free. Won't be needing more.

Hourly income:

Source: Nex
Average unique drop value: (Total value of all of the unique nex drops: 3,002,300,000 GP / 10) = 302,230,000GP
KPPH: 1
DR: 30

1 / 30 = 0.0333333333 * 302,230,000 = 10,074,333.3 GP

^ Will be 10-20% off, due to randomization of drops, and, from personal experience, Bodies being more rare than Legs/Helmets. If I had to guess, the actual figure would be closer to 7.5M, after including small drop splits. And removing potion pricing.


Time consumption per effigy: 7,500K / 1,630K = 4.60122699 Effigies afforded per hour.

Time per effigy spent Nexing: 13.04 Minutes
Time per effigy saved, after deducting time spent nexing, and skills not needed to max: 54.4333 - 13.04 = 41.393 Minutes

**Not factored in is the chance of an Effigy from nex. I'm the tank though, so it doesn't really matter. ~1% chance at a kill.




Worth doing Cave Crawlers until maxed: Yes.


pm keith to sticky this shit in its own thread
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Jun 27 2011 04:02pm
Quote (Exemplary @ Jun 27 2011 03:52pm)
12m?


I'm not trying to be an asshole or anything, but let's think about this.

12M --> 48,000 Cannonballs @ 250 Each.

Cannons shoot one time, sometimes twice, per game tick. Assuming it's always firing, and there's always mobs around for it to hit.


Ticks per minute: 100.
Ticks per hour: 6000

48K / 6K = 8. So that would mean you're firing 8 balls, constantly, per cannon rotation. (1 tick)


Use your brain brah. It's 1.5-2M, depending on item prices

Quote (guywhosebrother @ Jun 27 2011 03:58pm)
pm keith to sticky this shit in its own thread


It'd have to be edited to be applicable to each persons own situation. For me, that time saved/etc shit is just a measure of what skills I do and don't need.

For example, I don't need Woodcutting or Firemaking. So I took those out of the time saved. So the info wouldn't be the same for everyone. Also changes every level, with the Dragonkin Lamp giving more XP, and more time saved.

Quote (Exemplary @ Jun 27 2011 04:02pm)
No you silly gook give me 12m


Go on youtube, search 'Runescape Giveaway', filter it to the newest videos first, and enter one of those. Billions being given away, daily. 100% legit.

I am not responsible if you lose all of your shit, and get a keylogger.

This post was edited by The_Carlton on Jun 27 2011 04:04pm
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Jun 27 2011 04:02pm
Quote (The_Carlton @ Jun 27 2011 05:02pm)
I'm not trying to be an asshole or anything, but let's think about this.

12M --> 48,000 Cannonballs @ 250 Each.

Cannons shoot one time, sometimes twice, per game tick.  Assuming it's always firing, and there's always mobs around for it to hit.


Ticks per minute:  100.
Ticks per hour:  6000

48K / 6K = 8.  So that would mean you're firing 8 balls, constantly, per cannon rotation.  (1 tick)


Use your brain brah.  It's 1.5-2M, depending on item prices


No you silly gook give me 12m
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Jun 27 2011 04:06pm
nice account keep updating :)
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Jun 27 2011 04:16pm
Quote (The_Carlton @ Jun 27 2011 03:02pm)
I'm not trying to be an asshole or anything, but let's think about this.

12M --> 48,000 Cannonballs @ 250 Each.

Cannons shoot one time, sometimes twice, per game tick.  Assuming it's always firing, and there's always mobs around for it to hit.


Ticks per minute:  100.
Ticks per hour:  6000

48K / 6K = 8.  So that would mean you're firing 8 balls, constantly, per cannon rotation.  (1 tick)


Use your brain brah.  It's 1.5-2M, depending on item prices



It'd have to be edited to be applicable to each persons own situation.  For me, that time saved/etc shit is just a measure of what skills I do and don't need.

For example, I don't need Woodcutting or Firemaking.  So I took those out of the time saved.  So the info wouldn't be the same for everyone.  Also changes every level, with the Dragonkin Lamp giving more XP, and more time saved.



Go on youtube, search 'Runescape Giveaway', filter it to the newest videos first, and enter one of those.  Billions being given away, daily.  100% legit.

I am not responsible if you lose all of your shit, and get a keylogger.


You kinda messed that up, if there is 6k ticks in an hour and you're shooting 8 per 1 tick, that you mean you're shooting 48k cballs an hour.
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Jun 27 2011 04:18pm
Quote (TheYummy @ Jun 27 2011 06:16pm)
You kinda messed that up, if there is 6k ticks in an hour and you're shooting 8 per 1 tick, that you mean you're shooting 48k cballs an hour.


48K / 6K = 8. So that would mean you're firing 8 balls, constantly, per cannon rotation. (1 tick)


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