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Aug 15 2016 07:32am
Quote (The_Carlton @ 15 Aug 2016 14:22)
The point of SA is to facilitate a repay, not only hear one side of the story then set an absurd repay amount on one guy because the other said it's worth that much. SA helpers failed one of the most trusted/active members of our community, it shouldn't just be me that's frustrated.


"Most trusted"

> Gets someone banned while doing a job
> Repays just a little little bit, probably to win time
> Transfers his FG + Guild
> Has mysteriously disappeared

'Nuff said. Dave should take responsibility on this. If he repays the 500M as stated in the topic, he'll be unlocked in no-time ;)

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Aug 15 2016 07:36am
Quote (Hiawatha @ Aug 15 2016 07:32am)
"Most trusted"

> Gets someone banned while doing a job
> Repays just a little little bit, probably to win time
> Transfers his FG + Guild
> Has mysteriously disappeared

'Nuff said.


Back to the good ol' Cynikul = Dave theory, 10/10.

Slam a 67,500FG debt on anyone on JSP and yeah they're going to disappear. If I was locked and had a 67.5K debt wrongfully slapped onto me you bet your ass I'd stop using the site.


Again, it's about precedent. Show me some cases from the RS section where an account was banned, then the person doing the job was ordered to pay 500M or whatever the fuck for the account. Show me cases from the RS section where someone was ordered to repay 2B for Castle Wars armor. And do we want to reward people who, when banned, run and bug the shit out of JMods on Twitter, telling them the ins and outs of JSP and throwing everyone they need under the bus? Should Weath's Tweet even be considered?


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If he repays the 500M as stated in the topic, he'll be unlocked in no-time ;)


The only issue here being that Dave owes him 150M, not 500M. SA handlers didn't do their jobs properly and gave the wrong amount for repay. That's the issue.

I'll 100% agree with you that Dave owes Hugger money and should currently be locked. 100%. But how much is the issue, and honestly, if the case doesn't move towards the direction that any other one is handled in, Hugger isn't going to get anything.

I think Dave is willing to repay up to 200M. Hugger can have that, or Hugger can have nothing. 500M isn't happening. 200M is more than fair given how cases are handled, 500M is not within the standard rules.

This post was edited by The_Carlton on Aug 15 2016 07:39am
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Back to the good ol' Cynikul = Dave theory, 10/10.

Slam a 67,500FG debt on anyone on JSP and yeah they're going to disappear. If I was locked and had a 67.5K debt wrongfully slapped onto me you bet your ass I'd stop using the site.

Again, it's about precedent. Show me some cases from the RS section where an account was banned, then the person doing the job was ordered to pay 500M or whatever the fuck for the account. Show me cases from the RS section where someone was ordered to repay 2B for Castle Wars armor. And do we want to reward people who, when banned, run and bug the shit out of JMods on Twitter, telling them the ins and outs of JSP and throwing everyone they need under the bus? Should Weath's Tweet even be considered?


I'll show you this; It might say something that most SA cases are open for 6 to 12 months, or 12+ months when they're difficult to prove.

Dave's SA was finished in what, 3 weeks? That's because it's a really simple and clear case. Dave should take responsibility or he should stay away.

That's all I'm gonna say. I understand you're protecting your fckmate friend, but that doesn't change the facts ;)

Enjoy! :hug:
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Aug 15 2016 07:41am
Quote (Hiawatha @ Aug 15 2016 07:32am)
"Most trusted"

> Gets someone banned while doing a job
> Repays just a little little bit, probably to win time
> Transfers his FG + Guild
> Has mysteriously disappeared

'Nuff said. Dave should take responsibility on this. If he repays the 500M as stated in the topic, he'll be unlocked in no-time ;)


I didn't bot, nor did I break any rules for this to deserve the macro ban. it was either a false ban, or banned for something other than botting.

If I was honestly botting why weren't these accounts banned as well? assuming Mod Weath doesn't make mistakes on his bans, obviously if I'm going to bot I'm going to bot them all.

1: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=74345782&f=212&p=502971237 - Finished same day Hugger was banned, d2falt isn't banned.
2: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=74664469&f=212&p=504860140 - Finished same day Hugger was banned, TheresOnlyOneOfme isn't banned.
3: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=74663023&f=212&p=504850780 - Still leveling Moorbid's account, started before the ban occurred.
4: I was leveling http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=720903 account, was all over PM. he's perfectly fine too.

I was willing to taking half responsibility until he pulled random numbers out of his ass for repay, the whole situation is terrible don't get me wrong, and I honestly feel bad for Hugger. I also feel like both parties of this need to take responsibility here, He's the one who asked me to level his account, both going into this agreement breaking account sharing rules, and gaining exp for ranks.
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Quote (Hiawatha @ Aug 15 2016 07:40am)
I'll show you this; It might say something that most SA cases are open for 6 to 12 months, or 12+ months when they're difficult to prove.

Dave's SA was finished in what, 3 weeks? That's because it's a really simple and clear case. Dave should take responsibility or he should stay away.

That's all I'm gonna say. I understand you're protecting your fckmate friend, but that doesn't change the facts ;)

Enjoy! :hug:


Ask for proof, get none. Get called a faggot.

10/10 discussion there bud


AGAIN JUST SO I'M 100% CLEAR

150M in items that were on the account: Dave is liable
100M for the base stats of the account, + 150M for skills + 500M for feefees: Dave is not liable
2200M for Castle Wars armor that Hugger spent 40 hours to get, then the time taken to get it was changed during a game update: Dave is not liable

This post was edited by The_Carlton on Aug 15 2016 07:44am
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Aug 15 2016 07:46am
nice achievement thread!
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Aug 15 2016 07:47am
Quote (Harddrivekiller @ 15 Aug 2016 14:41)
I didn't bot, nor did I break any rules for this to deserve the macro ban. it was either a false ban, or banned for something other than botting.

If I was honestly botting why weren't these accounts banned as well? assuming Mod Weath doesn't make mistakes on his bans, obviously if I'm going to bot I'm going to bot them all.

1: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=74345782&f=212&p=502971237 - Finished same day Hugger was banned, d2falt isn't banned.
2: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=74664469&f=212&p=504860140 - Finished same day Hugger was banned, TheresOnlyOneOfme isn't banned.
3: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=74663023&f=212&p=504850780 - Still leveling Moorbid's account, started before the ban occurred.
4: I was leveling http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=720903 account, was all over PM. he's perfectly fine too.

I was willing to taking half responsibility until he pulled random numbers out of his ass for repay, the whole situation is terrible don't get me wrong, and I honestly feel bad for Hugger. I also feel like both parties of this need to take responsibility here, He's the one who asked me to level his account, both going into this agreement breaking account sharing rules, and gaining exp for ranks.


Still banned for macroing, not account sharing. Which was confirmed by Weath. Also, I agree on the fact that both need to take responsibility, but there hasn't been a real good offer from your side hm?

Anyway. You could put on a real offer for repaying. If Hugger agrees on that, you'll still get unlocked. But it's really quiet from your side.
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Aug 15 2016 07:49am
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nice achievement thread!


PoE league 9/2 be ready

1 ->100

This post was edited by The_Carlton on Aug 15 2016 07:49am
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Quote (Hiawatha @ Aug 15 2016 09:47am)
Still banned for macroing, not account sharing. Which was confirmed by Weath. Also, I agree on the fact that both need to take responsibility, but there hasn't been a real good offer from your side hm?

Anyway. You could put on a real offer for repaying. If Hugger agrees on that, you'll still get unlocked. But it's really quiet from your side.


he offered him like 200m or nothing
the dude chose nothing and oh well dave gets locked

theres so many sites he can use to get jobs it doesnt matter
not to mention ppl still trust him more then they trust your ass so fuck off
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