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Sep 29 2016 12:42pm
Quote (staking @ Sep 29 2016 12:40pm)
i completed a few jobs for rock. i was the only + him ofc with acc info.
idk if kokau scammed or if rock took it him self and idc but kokau decided to pay rock the money so it should be out off the way now.
dosen't really help much chubby to say rock is the bad guy if you don't have anything to put it up against.


Did you not just read Jynthes message?

That is all there needs to be against him to prove that kokua is more than likely not at fault. Roflmao

So you can confirm that every IP into the account was always the same? From Rocktaze, or yourself only?

I'd like to point out, that the only way rocktaze as a player can prove who did or didn't do this would be to provide every PM conversation hes had with every person he's ever hired through skype or PM's, with date and time stamps, and show the IP's of every person with the "last logged in" screen posted.

What idiot gives his account multiple users of access at once, and then says "My account was secure". Also not having a pin or a Authentication set up?

This post was edited by Chubby on Sep 29 2016 12:47pm
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Sep 29 2016 12:49pm
Quote (Chubby @ Sep 29 2016 07:42pm)
Did you not just read Jynthes message?

That is all there needs to be against him to prove that kokua is more than likely not at fault. Roflmao

So you can confirm that every IP into the account was always the same? From Rocktaze, or yourself only?


yes i did read it.

and no i can't confirm it but i do know that he changed his password each time he got anything completed = only 1 on acc at the time.

but idk i agree with you/jynthe but i still can't add it up in my head to say for 100% sure if it's rock or kokao who made a mistake/scammed.
thats why i say there is no reason for this topic to be made as kokao already paid rocktaze that way it pretty much ended this thing.
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Sep 29 2016 12:52pm
I have done plenty of work for R0cktaze.
There were times where he was having multiple users on at once.
I also made sure he would change the password when I had access to his account so I was the only one with access, to keep myself safe from this happening.
He left the rares on 1 or 2 times when I did jobs, but mostly would transfer to his mule before I would start.
So I'm not sure why he would of left them on there, he usually would make me wait before starting so he could transfer it.
I'm not accusing him of anything, and I don't really have an opinion on the situation.
I don't know the user that's in question, and R0cktaze can be hard to deal with sometimes but he isn't a bad guy.

I think this is something that needs to be dealt with the information that is provided, we can't really accuse either side without all the information.
Only two people know what happened, and they both can choose to tell it or stay quiet.

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Sep 29 2016 12:53pm
Quote (staking @ Sep 29 2016 12:49pm)
yes i did read it.

and no i can't confirm it but i do know that he changed his password each time he got anything completed = only 1 on acc at the time.

but idk i agree with you/jynthe but i still can't add it up in my head to say for 100% sure if it's rock or kokao who made a mistake/scammed.
thats why i say there is no reason for this topic to be made as kokao already paid rocktaze that way it pretty much ended this thing.


For intentionally having multiple users doing jobs through PM's at once on his account (Against the rules to even do PM trades/jobs), and for also strong arming a person into paying a debt that he is more than likely not at fault for taking?

Better yet, you assume that rocktaze can't be forced to either repay for falsifying information, and not providing accurate accounts for who had reasonable access to an account?

Rocktaze has clearly broken a few different rules for jobs, and has also committed some HUGE no-no's as far as hiring users to work on his account.

The point is that nobody should work for that user, and there is a chance he can be locked for lying on a S/A.

E/ Also, him changing his password only makes sense after having a job completely, you're an idiot if you don't.

Quote (MfTillDeath @ Sep 29 2016 12:52pm)
I have done plenty of work for R0cktaze.
There were times where he was having multiple users on at once.

I also made sure he would change the password when I had access to his account so I was the only one with access, to keep myself safe from this happening.
He left the rares on 1 or 2 times when I did jobs, but mostly would transfer to his mule before I would start.
So I'm not sure why he would of left them on there, he usually would make me wait before starting so he could transfer it.
I'm not accusing him of anything, and I don't really have an opinion on the situation.
I don't know the user that's in question, and R0cktaze can be hard to deal with sometimes but he isn't a bad guy.

I think this is something that needs to be dealt with the information that is provided, we can't really accuse either side without all the information.
Only two people know what happened, and they both can choose to tell it or stay quiet.


Great, thanks for the information.

Another user stating that he was working for rocktaze with multiple users doing jobs at once.

Bad guy or not, he did some majorly stupid shit, and should be held accountable for what happened as a result.

This post was edited by Chubby on Sep 29 2016 12:56pm
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Did you not just read Jynthes message?

That is all there needs to be against him to prove that kokua is more than likely not at fault. Roflmao

So you can confirm that every IP into the account was always the same? From Rocktaze, or yourself only?

I'd like to point out, that the only way rocktaze as a player can prove who did or didn't do this would be to provide every PM conversation hes had with every person he's ever hired through skype or PM's, with date and time stamps, and show the IP's of every person with the "last logged in" screen posted.

What idiot gives his account multiple users of access at once, and then says "My account was secure". Also not having a pin or a Authentication set up?


Going throught the S/A topic... only the 'rare' tab was taken, every other tab was left untouched. There's easily another 200m in that bank in runes / herb supplies etc lol, why would a scammer leave that.

IMO S/A rules should be changed, there's no reason for there to be over lets say 300-500m on any account, and noone should be able to be held responsible for anything over 500m
If you can't take the 5 minutes to transfer your rares off then you deserve to have them stolen
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Quote (Chubby @ Sep 29 2016 12:35pm)
For the opposite reason that Dave didn't repay. He doesn't want to be locked, and he felt bad for the guy.

Dave didn't care to get locked, and didn't feel bad for the guy. (I think both choices are right, honestly)

It's a personality thing (I told him he shouldn't repay it, and tell him to eat shit).

So you're confirming that there is a extremely valid chance that rocktaze had multiple people with access to this account? (He could be lying, or have taken it himself, which was my point in the first place) I'm also pretty sure this is against the rules too, and should make rocktaze at fault for any loss on his own account.


All bs. Dave did care about getting locked. Pls dont bring him into this shit. Anyone who knows dave knows he was upset about the situtation. If you dont know dont talk about it.


Edit tbh i offered to pay for dave to get unlocked. But none of this would of happened if it wasnt for hugger jumping the gun rushing things tweeting to mods when dave told him clearly to wait while he handled it.

Edit again. Im not talking about rock cuz i dont know what happened but just since u mentioned daves story i felt like i had to step in to atleast say he does feel like shit about the situation.

This post was edited by Justin on Sep 29 2016 12:59pm
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Sep 29 2016 12:57pm
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All bs. Dave did care about getting locked. Pls dont bring him into this shit. Anyone who knows dave knows he was upset about the situtation. If you dont know dont talk about it.


Go cry elsewhere

Quote (Jynthe @ Sep 29 2016 12:56pm)
Going throught the S/A topic... only the 'rare' tab was taken, every other tab was left untouched. There's easily another 200m in that bank in runes / herb supplies etc lol, why would a scammer leave that.

IMO S/A rules should be changed, there's no reason for there to be over lets say 300-500m on any account, and noone should be able to be held responsible for anything over 500m
If you can't take the 5 minutes to transfer your rares off then you deserve to have them stolen


I agree. Also, if you have billions of gold, why the fuck are you not securing your account properly with a pin/Auth? It's also convenient that he happen to take a screen shot of the bank this time, rather than all the other times he's had (It would seem, dozen of users) a user doing a job?

This post was edited by Chubby on Sep 29 2016 12:59pm
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All bs. Dave did care about getting locked. Pls dont bring him into this shit. Anyone who knows dave knows he was upset about the situtation. If you dont know dont talk about it.


yet he wasnt upset enough to follow sa instructions...
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Sep 29 2016 12:58pm
reeks of a set up
rocktazes posts even do
annoying to read that s/a thread
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Quote (Chubby @ Sep 29 2016 07:53pm)
For intentionally having multiple users doing jobs through PM's at once on his account (Against the rules to even do PM trades/jobs), and for also strong arming a person into paying a debt that he is more than likely not at fault for taking?

Better yet, you assume that rocktaze can't be forced to either repay for falsifying information, and not providing accurate accounts for who had reasonable access to an account?

Rocktaze has clearly broken a few different rules for jobs, and has also committed some HUGE no-no's as far as hiring users to work on his account.

The point is that nobody should work for that user, and there is a chance he can be locked for lying on a S/A.


that's 100% true it's illegal to have more than one completeting jobs on acc at once.
but if kokao was the only one with acc info + rock at the time rock was scammed or stole the money him self. then it's 100% sure one of them. and has nothing to do with that other rule.

and ofc if there is prove that it wasen't kokau who scammed then are rock ofc to pay back the money he recived.
i'm just saying because kokao did pay back then it's gonna be very hard to prove anything else.

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