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Apr 17 2023 09:47am
Quote (fenwick @ Apr 17 2023 06:21am)
I think he has every right to say whatever he wants. Religion or not. Who cares. Dude provides so much laughter and Toxicity I love it.

Worlds fuckin Soft and 98% need fuckin diapers to clean their shit up. It's 2023 who the fuck cares.


this but more on the sense that people should be able to have their own opinions
that is the entire point of the USA lol...
last I checked he lived in the US. world has gotten so soft and full of karens that you literally are almost enslaved/forced to have the same opinion as everyone else or you are scrutinized for not having said opinion.

Again, I could give a shit less if someone is trans/gay etcetc. doesnt impact my life in the slightest so why would I care.

But the idea that someone cant speak their mind without being canceled or having their careers completely ruined is crazy to me.

Look at Mrbeast as an example. dude does so much good for the world, yes he makes a profit off the videos. there has to be or he couldnt do what he does... but one of his main guys randomly decides to split with his wife and take hormones to transition, and you can see it makes his entire crew uncomfortable. but they cant do anything, if they do... he will be canceled and his entire career is ruined.

TLDR: People need to stop being so sensitive and let people have their own damn uncensored opinions.

This post was edited by svastik on Apr 17 2023 09:47am
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Apr 17 2023 10:31am
I mean, you're mischaracterizing parts of what happened in your summary...

- He didn't just say trans people are a no go because of his religion, he also referred to them as transformers, calling them bumblebee and others. Had he simply stuck to the religion portion, I don't think he would have had the fallout from this that he did.
- The group disbanding wasn't simply about "saving face."
- Many people, including Oda himself, believe that his accounts were banned due to his recent gambling CC startup, not about his comments.
- Faux previously had a hardcore GIM group and is simply reviving that group, not making a group with other GIM members from Oda's.


I don't really care about the drama, I just think you're quite a bit off on what the story is. Whether that is intentional or not, idk.
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Apr 17 2023 10:51am
Quote (Jupe @ Apr 17 2023 05:48am)
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oh thought you were trying to say gay but typed different kek
ty for the lesson
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Apr 17 2023 11:01am
Quote (h0w @ 17 Apr 2023 12:31)
I mean, you're mischaracterizing parts of what happened in your summary...

- He didn't just say trans people are a no go because of his religion, he also referred to them as transformers, calling them bumblebee and others. Had he simply stuck to the religion portion, I don't think he would have had the fallout from this that he did.
- The group disbanding wasn't simply about "saving face."
- Many people, including Oda himself, believe that his accounts were banned due to his recent gambling CC startup, not about his comments.
- Faux previously had a hardcore GIM group and is simply reviving that group, not making a group with other GIM members from Oda's.


I don't really care about the drama, I just think you're quite a bit off on what the story is. Whether that is intentional or not, idk.


thanks!
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Apr 17 2023 01:21pm
Quote (Mikasa @ Apr 17 2023 12:51pm)
oh thought you were trying to say gay but typed different kek
ty for the lesson


:rofl:

Quote (h0w @ Apr 17 2023 12:31pm)

- He didn't just say trans people are a no go because of his religion, he also referred to them as transformers, calling them bumblebee and others.



I don't really care about the drama, I just think you're quite a bit off on what the story is. Whether that is intentional or not, idk.


l0l


This post was edited by Jupe on Apr 17 2023 01:22pm
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Apr 17 2023 07:04pm
Quote (svastik @ Apr 17 2023 11:47am)
this but more on the sense that people should be able to have their own opinions
that is the entire point of the USA lol...
last I checked he lived in the US. world has gotten so soft and full of karens that you literally are almost enslaved/forced to have the same opinion as everyone else or you are scrutinized for not having said opinion.

Again, I could give a shit less if someone is trans/gay etcetc. doesnt impact my life in the slightest so why would I care.

But the idea that someone cant speak their mind without being canceled or having their careers completely ruined is crazy to me.

Look at Mrbeast as an example. dude does so much good for the world, yes he makes a profit off the videos. there has to be or he couldnt do what he does... but one of his main guys randomly decides to split with his wife and take hormones to transition, and you can see it makes his entire crew uncomfortable. but they cant do anything, if they do... he will be canceled and his entire career is ruined.

TLDR: People need to stop being so sensitive and let people have their own damn uncensored opinions.


He does have his own uncensored opinion, which he's stated. Him having the ability to voice that is proof that he's free and able. Go live in a place like North Korea where you CAN'T voice your own opinion and you'll see what it's truly like. However, none of this protects him from people's opinions on that and choosing whether they want to associate with him.

Even so, JaGeX is a private company and ban your account at any time for any reason they want as per their ToS.

For your MrBeast example; you have no idea whether they are uncomfortable or not. Rather than listening to what MrBeast is saying, which in-fact he's saying that he's ok with it and in full support because they're FRIENDS, you're choosing to create your own narrative based on some Youtuber's video who normally makes videos like this for profit.

You saying he can't do anything is absolutely incorrect; MrBeast can really do whatever he wants and will ultimately be fine in life. Nobody stays on the upward climb on YouTube forever and his time will come.

People complain about the world getting soft. I agree that we are getting softer in a sense that we're more expressive about our emotions.
However, I would like to point out that previously, people were so "soft" that they couldn't tolerate having a black person sitting, eating, or learning with them.
Go back even further and people were executed for disagreeing with a king or religious leader.

Best way I'll put it is that I agree that we shouldn't enforce restrictive speech codes (which we don't have). I also agree that people should be held accountable for their speech or actions.
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Apr 18 2023 03:14am
Screw him. Someone's choice of religion doesn't give them the right to tell others what they can/cant do.
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Apr 18 2023 05:44am
Quote (xrmd @ Apr 17 2023 09:04pm)
He does have his own uncensored opinion, which he's stated. Him having the ability to voice that is proof that he's free and able. Go live in a place like North Korea where you CAN'T voice your own opinion and you'll see what it's truly like. However, none of this protects him from people's opinions on that and choosing whether they want to associate with him.

Even so, JaGeX is a private company and ban your account at any time for any reason they want as per their ToS.

For your MrBeast example; you have no idea whether they are uncomfortable or not. Rather than listening to what MrBeast is saying, which in-fact he's saying that he's ok with it and in full support because they're FRIENDS, you're choosing to create your own narrative based on some Youtuber's video who normally makes videos like this for profit.

You saying he can't do anything is absolutely incorrect; MrBeast can really do whatever he wants and will ultimately be fine in life. Nobody stays on the upward climb on YouTube forever and his time will come.

People complain about the world getting soft. I agree that we are getting softer in a sense that we're more expressive about our emotions.
However, I would like to point out that previously, people were so "soft" that they couldn't tolerate having a black person sitting, eating, or learning with them.
Go back even further and people were executed for disagreeing with a king or religious leader.

Best way I'll put it is that I agree that we shouldn't enforce restrictive speech codes (which we don't have). I also agree that people should be held accountable for their speech or actions.


100% this.

Freedom of speech and freedom from consequences are two very different things.

This post was edited by h0w on Apr 18 2023 05:52am
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Apr 19 2023 06:39pm
dont like the guy either but still i dont think his accounts should be perma banned and it really looks like there is sneaky shit going on under the carpet at jagex
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