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Apr 29 2012 05:07am
Tolkien's true life work, ultimately unfinished though it is THE SILMARILLION

In the Tolkien canon, THE SILMARILLION is the most highly contested of all his works. Constructed as a prehistoric history of the Universe, the book has the cultural significance of the Bible in Tolkien's universe. It is Tolkien's primary work, but it's also his most troublesome, in more ways than one. One thing you need to know. In Tolkien scholarship, there are two primary ways to refer to the "Silmarillion". One is the Silmarillion, the legendarium proper, and then the 1977 SILMARILLION, which may or may not be what Tolkien envisioned.

THE SILMARILLION, the book Tolkien spent all of his adult life writing, was, sadly, incomplete when Tolkien died at the age of eighty one in 1973. Naturally, this begs the question why did it take him decades to write the book, and it still be unfinished after all that time? Well, to understand that, you need to understand two things: the scope of the project, and how Tolkien worked.

The scope of the book was a complete imaginary history, a totally self-contained mythology, all written and developed for his home country, England (my home country as well). Imagine the Greek and Roman mythologies, all those myths and gods, developed by one man. Imagine Homer completely inventing all the gods for his stories. Imagine how hard that would be to come up with your own mythological traditions as such. No wonder Tolkien had such a hard time completing the work.

Now, the scope (which is extremely ambitious for any artist) was compounded by how Tolkien worked. First, he was a philologist first and foremost, and so before the stories he invented languages. All of these languages (which would have taken a life-time to develop on their own) had their own history, and are so interlocked with the mythology that you cannot remove them. He developed the main body of legends around these languages. Many features of the central body of legends changed relatively little over the years, but he wrote different versions of them at different times and in different styles. Some of the legends were set in poetry, those in annalistic histories, others in condensed summaries, and others in the more traditional (at least, for modern readers) novel format. A lot of these writings are also unfinished, due to Tolkien's perfectionist tendencies. Christopher Tolkien said that for most of his father's writing there existed a stable tradition from which Tolkien worked from, but there was no such thing as a stable text for the primary legends.

All this is tied to how Tolkien worked. C. S. Lewis famously stated that you did not influence Tolkien, you may as well as try to influence a bandersnatch. Tolkien would either take no notice of your criticism, or else he would start all over from the beginning. And so he did. A lot. Tolkien would reach a certain portion of the draft, be unsatisfied, and began the whole thing over again, while never reaching the end. Or Tolkien would have two copies of the same manuscript, one to be the fair copy and one to be working copy. Well, Tolkien would make conflicting revisions on both copies at separate times. How do you decide his final intent? Good

Wikipedia:
The Silmarillion is a collection of J. R. R. Tolkien's mythopoeic works, edited and published posthumously by his son Christopher Tolkien in 1977, with assistance from Guy Gavriel Kay,[1] who later became a noted fantasy writer. The Silmarillion, along with J. R. R. Tolkien's other works, forms an extensive, though incomplete, narrative that describes the universe of Ea in which are found the lands of Valinor, Beleriand, Numenor, and Middle-earth within which The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings take place.

It explains why sauron became evil where/why the elves awoke.. the balrogs and dragons stc. I wish it was finished. Better than LOTR.
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Apr 30 2012 09:30pm
If you could choose one man or woman to have lived healthily to 200 years of age, would Tolkien be anywhere near being that choice for you?
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Apr 30 2012 11:54pm
the "Silmarillion" was a good book overall, however I have to say that it got on a real slow pace at some points(got boring), though once u get past those moments its a nice read, and the story is very good indeed.
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Jun 5 2012 03:21am
Just how much time did he spend on the Silmarrillion compared to LotR? I loved that book, but it really just seems to be support to the heavy hitter that LotR was.
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Jul 18 2012 12:05pm
Quote (chemoshots @ Apr 30 2012 10:30pm)
If you could choose one man or woman to have lived healthily to 200 years of age, would Tolkien be anywhere near being that choice for you?


id choose myself.
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Jul 28 2012 05:55am
Good read, thanks op
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