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Jan 29 2008 01:51pm
So, i started reading this book The Iliad translated by Robert Fagles
was wondering if anyone has ever read it?

Apparently, Homer wrote this story as more of a "i'll show you what happens, but i won't tell you how i feel about any of the events"
which makes this book interested because you don't really know what your suppose to think about each character in the novel
Such events as is he good is he bad...it is hard to say

And the largest issue in this book is the keyword "Honor"

Let us discuss.....
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Jan 29 2008 02:22pm
The thing with Homer's Odyssey/Iliad is these were oral recounts of “historic” events with a mixture of fiction to make things exciting. Since these stories originally were spoken and not written, the storyteller (Homer) could portray his feelings by expression or tone of his voice. What we read in the Odyssey/Iliad, are translations of other people renditions of the oral Odyssey/Iliad that Homer spoke.
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Jan 29 2008 03:18pm
I agree with Darken....100%
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Jan 29 2008 11:50pm
so far its interesting, but apparently achilles fights near the end or something like that
but i was wondering if there were a lot of hidden meanings or symbology involved with this text
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Jan 30 2008 08:14am
Iliad (the wrath of Achilles) follows the same story line as the movie Troy. I have not read the specific translation that you are reading so it may read different then the translation I read. If you would like more understanding of the book, go to your local book store and pick up the Coles Notes : The Iliad. It will break everything down for you.
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Jan 30 2008 05:01pm
Quote (darken99 @ Wed, 30 Jan 2008, 09:22)
The thing with Homer's Odyssey/Iliad is these were oral recounts of “historic” events with a mixture of fiction to make things exciting. Since these stories originally were spoken and not written, the storyteller (Homer) could portray his feelings by expression or tone of his voice. What we read in the Odyssey/Iliad, are translations of other people renditions of the oral Odyssey/Iliad that Homer spoke.


yup yup
but i wonder how he got all this stories together since theyre not all together and it's Homer that put them all together and made it into an EVENT
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Jan 30 2008 06:33pm
from what i heard, it wasnt homer that was speaking the stories, but homer was the brilliant writter who composed this all together from those who told stories
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Jan 31 2008 10:04am
There are many different theories of Homer. My first readings of Homer portrait him as a blind poet who would recite epic adventures and battles told. There are so many things lost in history to say for sure.
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Feb 1 2008 06:11pm
after illiad, if u want a sci-fi twist on those stories read "illium" and "olympus" by dan simmons......
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Feb 11 2008 09:58pm
my teacher portrayed some questions today
that may make you think

is everything we do, the will of the gods?
why do the gods interviene in human affairs?

think about the aspects of life and death
humans are going to die anyways
the difference between a killer that has killed and a person who has not, is not the motives of each person, but the difference of "why should i kill" and "why not kill"
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