I don't believe I said that. Anything you want can appear in a fictional story. But if you don't want the premise to be scoffed and laughed at, it must be plausible given the context. There is no evidence within the text to suggest that the people of Goodkind's world have any limitations on their experiences with and understanding of what fire is and does. Goodkind's purpose was to show us how the perception of something mundane and familiar can be twisted, and how an otherwise ordinary people can be convinced of the absurd. He was attempting to make a statement about people in general, both in his story and in real life. Such a statement fails if his 'sample group' is radically different than everyone else. Goodkind does not set up a different context. In fact it'd defeat his 'point' if there was one. He attempted to make some social commentary with an outright stupid strawman hypothetical and failed miserably.

And you're trying to rationalize his bullshit. Don't.

I don't really care about the context of fire we are talking about, but saying that something mundane and familiar can't be twisted is wrong. Read some history books and get some actual accounts in where more absurd things then this have happened. Hitler, who was believed to be Jewish himself, said that the Jews were evil... We must kill all the Jews. How much more absurd do you need?

Damn achilles is harsh, hope he is as well-read as he thinks he is lol. Funny tho.

roffel @ you guys

im on the last book now.. didnt see this topic and made a new one.. how noob

you obviously have an inadequate level of comprehension, because the whole series he puts pressure on the fact that there is no good or evil, there is only belief. jagang does what he thinks is right, not because he's evil, because he believes it is right. like zedd explained in totw (?) the cat that eats the mouse feels right about doing it, but to the mice; the cat is in the wrong.

it's all point of view. and if your point of view leads you to dislike this series, or terry goodkind as an author, instead of talking shit.. just ignore it and go post about something you like.

so yea! i've read the whole series, several times (excluding confessor, only read it twice ) one of my favourite series of all time, only in-line behind a song of ice and fire, and the lord of the rings.

I'm quite happy to have found this thread

i actually finished the last book not too long ago. must say i was happy with how it ended and if youre starting chainfire, things get real suspensful from here on out. hope you like it all

yeah the final chainfire trilogy was the best, although it amounts to about one book's worth of his previous sot novels. like stone of tears, more happens in that one book than the whole of chainfire, phantom and confessor combined.

still in the middle of chainfire (well 2/3 thru)

has been hard reading with all the goings-on around here

I can't wait to finish and move on to other books.

I'm borrowing the series from a friend, and will more-than-likely re-read it all again (someday)


thanks for the input everybody....that's what this thread is all about. you don't have to like it to post- its a DISCUSSION post

update on my reading of Chainfire....

i was out shovelling snow this morning and came back in to find that my 6 month old chocolate lab has taken my book off from the middle of teh kitchen table and chewed it to pieces

my wife could only laugh at me