dunno theres too many good authors out there.

Some of my favorites : Ken Follet, Ayn Rand, Terry Goodkind, Stephen King, Marion Zimmer Bradley Conn Iggulden, Piers Anthony (mostly for his incarnations of immortality series and hope of earth. xanth was good till about book 4)


But when you're talking best, its impossible to pick. There is no such thing as a "best" author, only personal favorites.

I'd rate Jordan much, much higher than i'd rate Feist or Goodkind.

nobody can accuratly say who was the greatest writer

OF OUR TIME, sure, you could probly pick someone based on book sales and awards


but think of shakespeare, and other play and short story writers from centuries ago, you cant effectivly factor them in

then your a faggot with no taste, understanding, or appreaciation of real literature, and with way too much time on your hands to read unnaturally long, repetitive, unending books with no clear plot line, climax, or even realisticly believable yet fantastical scenarios . read my other review in the waste of time thread, somewhere in this sub forum, before you open your mouth again.

This post was edited by Kulith on Aug 4 2007 09:24pm

Rowling FTW!

James Joyce William Faulkner Ayn Rand Samuel Clemens Ernest Hemmingway Lewis Carrol Rudyard Kipling Charles Dickens... theres about a 1000 greater writers than maddox if not more

And you're an immature child that lacks the understanding of opinions, but whatever, clearly if you have to try insult others to try get your point across there's something wrong with you.
I personally don't care for Feist's style of stories, I don't like his stories, I don't mind his writing but his stories are far too simplistic for my tastes. Likewise, the constant preaching in the Sword of Truth series and Goodkind's attitude towards fantasy itself isn't something I appreciate in a book, but again, I must be wrong beccause you don't agree. Have you ever heard of differences of opinions, I think that applies here.
Now I wasn't exactly saying I loved Robert Jordan either, his books have slowed down hugely and it's not exactly a particularly inventive fantasy world either. If you find RJ's books "unending" then I can't see how you can like some of the books in the Sword of Truth, they're incredibly long and very slow paced, as for believeable scenarios, please don't pull that bullshit excuse, Feist's writing is one giant fantasy cliche and Goodkind's uses excessive moralising, to the point of insensibility.

I doubt you've read any of Erikson's novels, I suggest you read those if you're into intelligent, well written fantasy, it'll definitely change your perspectives.

First off, I apologise for being hostile, but my distaste for Jordans works goes way beyond words.

But, how can you call Feist's action packed stories simplistic?? Have you even read MAGICIAN? Remeber we are comparing Feist to Jordan, who writes a whole books where all they do is drink tea?

But don't get me wrong, the first 3 books Jordan wrote were great, the begining of what one would think is an exceptional series. But its unbelievable and ridiculous how shitty the sequels were. And as to that matter, I have only read the first book of Goodkind's series, so as far as I know Goodkin is just another Jordan. But Goodkins first book was much better than Jordans first....

As for believable yet fantastical scenarios, yes I will pull that bullshit here. Feists writing is phenomenal when it comes to plotlines I dont understand how you can have anything against him in this matter. Goodkind I dunno its possible. But FUCKING JORDAN read what I said in my other review, something about 2 women take out 10 thugs without magic involved is just one of the excessive examples of ridiculously unbelivable scenarios that happen repetively throughout all the books.

I haven't read any of Eriksons novels. But Im always on the lookout for good books so I might give them a shot. However, if your opinion of good books puts jordan way way above feist then I already have my doubts about them.

EDIT I see you have read my other review, and you AGREED with me, than I don't know why you are now support Jordan. Especially when comparing him to an excellent author like feist.

This post was edited by Kulith on Aug 5 2007 12:14pm

No worries about the hostility, you get used to it when you use the net a lot.

Yes, I have read Magician and the RiftWar saga and it just did not appeal to me whatsoever, one can sumarise the plot as being "young bullied boy with no hope for a future, finds out he has magical powers, goes on to kick lots of ass and become and major character in the world" . Sorry but that kind of storyline just does not appeal to me whatsoever and that just really puts me off Feists work.
I agree with you that RJ puts far too much useless crap in his books but atleast the character interactions are interesting, the world is interesting and it's put a new angle on a few popular fantasy cliches.

Again, I found Feist's story to be completely and utterly mind numbingly boring, "young boy finds out he's an uber strong warrior and goes to marry elf queen" that kind of stuff just doesn't appeal to me, I'd much rather read some Erikson or Martin where you're constantly guessing as to what's about to happen and characters aren't invicible.
As for your thing on unbelieveable scenarios, how can you complain about a few female characters beating up ten men when you enjoy reading those cliches I mentioned above? It just doesn't make much sense to me.

And no, I don't think RJ is that amazing of an author, i just prefer his works to any i've read by GoodKind or Feist, it's just a matter of opinion.
Definitely DO read Erikson's books, they'll change your viewpoints on the fantasy genre, hell I like his books so much that I just preordered an extremely limited (52 copies) of Erikson's first book in the MBotF series for $300, I wouldn't do that if I didn't think the book was worth it.
http://dir.salon.com/story/books/review/2004/06/21/erikson/index.html?pn=1 A review I found for Erikson's series, the qutoe below is just to give you an idea about the reviewer.

Dude, those are CLASSICS!! They are the very foundation of FANTASY. Hell, you can call Harry Potter a classic good vs evil theme, but DAMN THEY"RE WELL WRITTEN!! And your not giving MAGICIAN enough credit. The majesty in which Feist takes a hopeless boy, puts him through infatuation, captivity and slavery, war, and the unique training to a Higher-level magicians is uncomparable. And anyways, not all Feists work are like that. The Conclave of Shadows are great reads, different from magician

And the fact that you say 2 women beating up 10 thugs in a street is more understandable than a well written series of emotional events leading to a great magician, and a great Valheru warrior... thats what doesnt make much sense.

Ill look into Eriksons novels.

And as for George R R Martin, hell I read the first 3 books and they were pretty good, a little bit long but good. And I get to the fourth one and I can't keep reading it, nothing at all is happening, I gave up about a month ago, stopped about half way through. Fuck, the only thing I really cared about was the girl taking over the Seven Kingdoms with her dragons, but NO she just sits there in her city with her massive army of slaves. And catelyn s tark is the most annoying woman in the world, I nearly put the books down when she freed Jaime. FFS. And then she comes back to life...wtf? Arya, the other interesting character, just sits there being a monk, doing nothing except giving the reader promises of magic etc... And Brianna (whats her name?) goes on all these little side-quests throughout the book that lead to nowhere... the whole book is just her looking for sansa... and thats pretty pointless in itself. The imp was also a fun character, but damn he just disappeared with the spider and i never heard of him again....