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Ok, The first obvious question for me to ask you is whether you have ever done a critical analysis of any text? If so what type of text was it? Was it prose or poetry? If it was prose was a novel length text or was it a short story? Again, if it was prose, was it fiction, non-fiction or travel-writing?

I ask these questions in order to gauge your current aptitudes and then I'll proceed to set the first text to critically analyse and we'll see where we go from there smile.gif.


prose, both text novel and short story, fiction and non-ficition.

Great. Can you get your hands on the following book?
"A New Life" - By Bernard Malamud

It is a medium length book and it is makes for a very nice analytical piece of writing. If you can get it, read the first 5 chapters (fairly short) and:
1) see whether you wish to continue (this is all your choice)
2) analyse what you have read in the first chapter, concentrating not so much on the diction but on the atmosphere, the context, and the imagery.


I'l get to it now.


Great! I think you'll like the book. Try and spot, if you can, whether it is fiction or non-fiction in the first few pages and tell me why you think it is fiction or non-fiction. What in the text gives it away smile.gif.
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Ok, The first obvious question for me to ask you is whether you have ever done a critical analysis of any text? If so what type of text was it? Was it prose or poetry? If it was prose was a novel length text or was it a short story? Again, if it was prose, was it fiction, non-fiction or travel-writing?

I ask these questions in order to gauge your current aptitudes and then I'll proceed to set the first text to critically analyse and we'll see where we go from there smile.gif.


prose, both text novel and short story, fiction and non-ficition.

Great. Can you get your hands on the following book?
"A New Life" - By Bernard Malamud

It is a medium length book and it is makes for a very nice analytical piece of writing. If you can get it, read the first 5 chapters (fairly short) and:
1) see whether you wish to continue (this is all your choice)
2) analyse what you have read in the first chapter, concentrating not so much on the diction but on the atmosphere, the context, and the imagery.


I'l get to it now.


Great! I think you'll like the book. Try and spot, if you can, whether it is fiction or non-fiction in the first few pages and tell me why you think it is fiction or non-fiction. What in the text gives it away smile.gif.


I will, read my edit above ^

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Quote (TheRaven @ Sat, Apr 8 2006, 04:56am)
Ok, The first obvious question for me to ask you is whether you have ever done a critical analysis of any text? If so what type of text was it? Was it prose or poetry? If it was prose was a novel length text or was it a short story? Again, if it was prose, was it fiction, non-fiction or travel-writing?

I ask these questions in order to gauge your current aptitudes and then I'll proceed to set the first text to critically analyse and we'll see where we go from there smile.gif.


prose, both text novel and short story, fiction and non-ficition.

Great. Can you get your hands on the following book?
"A New Life" - By Bernard Malamud

It is a medium length book and it is makes for a very nice analytical piece of writing. If you can get it, read the first 5 chapters (fairly short) and:
1) see whether you wish to continue (this is all your choice)
2) analyse what you have read in the first chapter, concentrating not so much on the diction but on the atmosphere, the context, and the imagery.


I'l get to it now.


Great! I think you'll like the book. Try and spot, if you can, whether it is fiction or non-fiction in the first few pages and tell me why you think it is fiction or non-fiction. What in the text gives it away smile.gif.


I will, read my edit above ^


Interesting books to read are (and which I myself have read at school and have written essays on):
A New Life
Last Orders
Silas Marner
The Grapes Of Wrath (classic American novel, truly great imo)

Some poetry:
Journey of the Magi
A cold coming

Short stories (not my forte but I would advise any from the book: "19th and 20th century short stories"

This should give you some reading material and you would no doubt soon find out that they are based on journeys as a theme, something which should be a focal point of any critical commentary you write on these books.
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Ok, The first obvious question for me to ask you is whether you have ever done a critical analysis of any text? If so what type of text was it? Was it prose or poetry? If it was prose was a novel length text or was it a short story? Again, if it was prose, was it fiction, non-fiction or travel-writing?

I ask these questions in order to gauge your current aptitudes and then I'll proceed to set the first text to critically analyse and we'll see where we go from there smile.gif.


prose, both text novel and short story, fiction and non-ficition.

Great. Can you get your hands on the following book?
"A New Life" - By Bernard Malamud

It is a medium length book and it is makes for a very nice analytical piece of writing. If you can get it, read the first 5 chapters (fairly short) and:
1) see whether you wish to continue (this is all your choice)
2) analyse what you have read in the first chapter, concentrating not so much on the diction but on the atmosphere, the context, and the imagery.


I'l get to it now.


Great! I think you'll like the book. Try and spot, if you can, whether it is fiction or non-fiction in the first few pages and tell me why you think it is fiction or non-fiction. What in the text gives it away smile.gif.


I will, read my edit above ^


Interesting books to read are (and which I myself have read at school and have written essays on):
A New Life
Last Orders
Silas Marner
The Grapes Of Wrath (classic American novel, truly great imo)

Some poetry:
Journey of the Magi
A cold coming

Short stories (not my forte but I would advise any from the book: "19th and 20th century short stories"

This should give you some reading material and you would no doubt soon find out that they are based on journeys as a theme, something which should be a focal point of any critical commentary you write on these books.


Is Last Orders Graham Swift? If so I have read that book and it was a very good read.

This post was edited by 39ES7 on Apr 9 2006 01:19pm
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Ok, The first obvious question for me to ask you is whether you have ever done a critical analysis of any text? If so what type of text was it? Was it prose or poetry? If it was prose was a novel length text or was it a short story? Again, if it was prose, was it fiction, non-fiction or travel-writing?

I ask these questions in order to gauge your current aptitudes and then I'll proceed to set the first text to critically analyse and we'll see where we go from there smile.gif.


prose, both text novel and short story, fiction and non-ficition.

Great. Can you get your hands on the following book?
"A New Life" - By Bernard Malamud

It is a medium length book and it is makes for a very nice analytical piece of writing. If you can get it, read the first 5 chapters (fairly short) and:
1) see whether you wish to continue (this is all your choice)
2) analyse what you have read in the first chapter, concentrating not so much on the diction but on the atmosphere, the context, and the imagery.


I'l get to it now.


Great! I think you'll like the book. Try and spot, if you can, whether it is fiction or non-fiction in the first few pages and tell me why you think it is fiction or non-fiction. What in the text gives it away smile.gif.


I will, read my edit above ^


Interesting books to read are (and which I myself have read at school and have written essays on):
A New Life
Last Orders
Silas Marner
The Grapes Of Wrath (classic American novel, truly great imo)

Some poetry:
Journey of the Magi
A cold coming

Short stories (not my forte but I would advise any from the book: "19th and 20th century short stories"

This should give you some reading material and you would no doubt soon find out that they are based on journeys as a theme, something which should be a focal point of any critical commentary you write on these books.


Is Last Orders Graham Swift? If so I have read that book and it was a very good read.


Yes it is. If you have read it already then you surely wouldn't mind writing a critical commentary on it? Perhaps I'l provide you with an essay title and you can write one... what do you think?
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Quote (39ES7 @ Sun, Apr 9 2006, 02:47am)
Quote (TheRaven @ Sat, Apr 8 2006, 04:56am)
Ok, The first obvious question for me to ask you is whether you have ever done a critical analysis of any text? If so what type of text was it? Was it prose or poetry? If it was prose was a novel length text or was it a short story? Again, if it was prose, was it fiction, non-fiction or travel-writing?

I ask these questions in order to gauge your current aptitudes and then I'll proceed to set the first text to critically analyse and we'll see where we go from there smile.gif.


prose, both text novel and short story, fiction and non-ficition.

Great. Can you get your hands on the following book?
"A New Life" - By Bernard Malamud

It is a medium length book and it is makes for a very nice analytical piece of writing. If you can get it, read the first 5 chapters (fairly short) and:
1) see whether you wish to continue (this is all your choice)
2) analyse what you have read in the first chapter, concentrating not so much on the diction but on the atmosphere, the context, and the imagery.


I'l get to it now.


Great! I think you'll like the book. Try and spot, if you can, whether it is fiction or non-fiction in the first few pages and tell me why you think it is fiction or non-fiction. What in the text gives it away smile.gif.


I will, read my edit above ^


Interesting books to read are (and which I myself have read at school and have written essays on):
A New Life
Last Orders
Silas Marner
The Grapes Of Wrath (classic American novel, truly great imo)

Some poetry:
Journey of the Magi
A cold coming

Short stories (not my forte but I would advise any from the book: "19th and 20th century short stories"

This should give you some reading material and you would no doubt soon find out that they are based on journeys as a theme, something which should be a focal point of any critical commentary you write on these books.


Is Last Orders Graham Swift? If so I have read that book and it was a very good read.


Yes it is. If you have read it already then you surely wouldn't mind writing a critical commentary on it? Perhaps I'l provide you with an essay title and you can write one... what do you think?


sounds good
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"It's like we aren't the same people who left Bermondsey, four blokes on a special delivery. It's like somewhere along the line we just became travellers." (Ray)

How does theday trip to Margate affect the characters of 'Last Orders'?

That is the essay title mate. I had to do the same one for L1 not long ago. You should focus on the mental, spiritual and emotianal 'journeys' of each character. Do not exclude Amy, who is on a parallel trip of her own and who is anticipating the men's journey bit by bit. Do not forget the physical journey as well (although it is not as important). If you find yourself writing a lot, think in the optimum range of 1000 words as being the best at the present time.

Have fun, do what you can, and I'll see about trying to get your essay marked smile.gif.
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Apr 14 2006 10:35pm
I like what you all are doing here. To me this is a good thing I think it would be nice if maybe we could try and read at least one book a week (depending on lenth) and possible do a summery on it maby even a little discussion, but we might have to take it to live chat or another type of chat where we won't get alot of trouble from mods on spamming, maby try and get something like a book club going. Just an idea any insite is welcome, but if all you have is flames save it for the b/f please.

Edit: Feel free to pm me with any idea as well.

This post was edited by drako_lich on Apr 14 2006 10:36pm
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I like what you all are doing here. To me this is a good thing I think it would be nice if maybe we could try and read at least one book a week (depending on lenth) and possible do a summery on it maby even a little discussion, but we might have to take it to live chat or another type of chat where we won't get alot of trouble from mods on spamming, maby try and get something like a book club going. Just an idea  any insite is welcome, but if all you have is flames save it for the b/f please.

Edit: Feel free to pm me with any idea as well.


Sure thing Drako. Thing is, would you not agree that to start on a literary discourse one might already try typing words out in a correct manner? By 'correct', I mean properly phrased sentences and properly spelled words. I mean no offense, it is just that it took me a while to decipher, wuite literally, the content of your post, and in doing so I realised it might prove useful to start spelling correctly so we can go on to bigger and better things here in this sub-sub-sub forum wink.gif.
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Quote (drako_lich @ Sat, Apr 15 2006, 06:35am)
I like what you all are doing here. To me this is a good thing I think it would be nice if maybe we could try and read at least one book a week (depending on lenth) and possible do a summery on it maby even a little discussion, but we might have to take it to live chat or another type of chat where we won't get alot of trouble from mods on spamming, maby try and get something like a book club going. Just an idea  any insite is welcome, but if all you have is flames save it for the b/f please.

Edit: Feel free to pm me with any idea as well.


Sure thing Drako. Thing is, would you not agree that to start on a literary discourse one might already try typing words out in a correct manner? By 'correct', I mean properly phrased sentences and properly spelled words. I mean no offense, it is just that it took me a while to decipher, wuite literally, the content of your post, and in doing so I realised it might prove useful to start spelling correctly so we can go on to bigger and better things here in this sub-sub-sub forum wink.gif.


I agree my typing and spelling do need some work, however it is apperant by the grammer you use it took you no longer to "decipher" than it would had I writin it correctly. The main point I was trying to get at was is anyone interested in doing something like a book club, and do they have any suggestions on how to get it up and running. However poor my wroting skills, my reading and comprension skills are good. Spelling I have never been good at, and I have been out of school for a while now so I dare say my sentence structure could also use some work.
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