Two options left:

1) I keep my 100 macro and I bought in the weba new 5d MKII and for a while I won't have the mony for a wide lens.

2) I buy a used 5D MKI and a 28 Zeiss Ze F2, so I have a wide good quality lens (better than any Canon in my opinion) and my 100 macro IS USM L on a full frame.

Atm I like a bit more the secondo option, but still not sure.

Only one thing is clear, I do not need video feature.

Mat



This post was edited by bialator on Nov 19 2010 03:30am

i wouldnt want to have just 28mm and 100mm on full frame, having really wide lens and short tele really limits what you can shoot. also if you want some manual glass, i suggest buying some old manual zeiss lenses. some old lenses are even better than those new versions and they cost less, you could get 2-4 old quality zeiss lenses for the price of that 28mm new

This post was edited by Antichrist- on Nov 19 2010 05:59am

My question was another but anyway...

No, new 28 is much better than the older.
I own some old Contax/Zeiss lenses, using them adapted in stop down with no focus confirmation is a pain in the ass.

I like these 2 focal lenses because:
28 is wide enough on full frame, has low distortion and it has a good minimal focus distance so you can also take some portraits. It is also fast.
100 is one of best studio focal lenses, that macro is very sharp, is works fine for normal photograpy. The AF is surprisingly fast.

My doubts anyway are it is better to spend on the body or i an older body + a wide lens. I was also considering Canon 35 1.4, but is not wide enough for my needs.

This post was edited by bialator on Nov 19 2010 07:40am

you dont want to use 28mm for close up portraits, maybe just barely with 1.6crop camera..

get a adapter with focus confirmation chip if you need to, viewfinder on 5d is totally from different world than what you got now, so you may not even need that, especially if you get a split-image or microprism viewfinder screen.

i dont really get whats so bad on stopping down the lens before shooting, only downside i see in it is that viewfinder gets slightly darker. when using live view, it compensates the darkening and you can see what dof you get. also when you change the aperture from the lens, you can put iso on the wheel(not sure if you can do this with 5d mkI, but i bet you can change this with mkII) and you can control everything without pushing any buttons. actually with macros i prefer a lens where you can change the aperture from it since i like to shoot with live view and i can see the dof all the time.

what contax lenses you have?

I own Planar 50 1.4 and I have tested 100 f 3.5. Both perform well but it is hard to focus precisely, adapters with focus confirmations are not very precise for what I heard. Plus, all the old wide contax lenses have problems with the mirror on 5D and 5DII.

http://www.pebbleplace.com/Personal/Contax_db.html

In the end, 100 mm is OK for me and I own it so it is easier to keep if I stay with Canon. 28 mm is a good focal lens on full frame imo coz it is not too wide and distortion is well controlled.
Close up are not first use ofc, it is only a good feature to have. T aperture seems very nice there so in low light, at 3200 ISO af F2 I should be able to shoot in most occasions

5DI has not liveview btw.

The point is, D700 and 5DII are not convincing me completely, so I like the idea of spending in lenses too (as I have no wideangle atm) and to wait for a new model to be released but with a full frame in my hands. That is why I am considering 5DI.

focus is hard to get spot on because your current camera has very crappy viewfinder, there is adapters with programmable af chip where you can adjust the focus, also if you get a split-image or microprism viewfinder screen, its pretty easy to get the focus spot on, quite fast after you get used to it.

they have made quality zeiss(and other brand) lenses also with other mounts than just c/y. one thing you can do is to shave the mirror on the 5d and you can use c/y lenses on it

This post was edited by Antichrist- on Nov 19 2010 09:09am

Get a5d MK II. Even if Canon or Nikon announce a new model, that still doesn't make the 5d MK II a lesser camera and the new equivalent would be over 3k.

Bah, too complicated and I prefer not to have adapters. And again, the mirror is the problem on 5D, I or II. And what I prefer fro Zeiss are Wide lense, not 50 or >. So this is not solving the problem. That would be cool if I had a 1Ds II.



That is true too.

800-900 Euros vs the 1 used and 1700-1800 vs a II new, this is tempting ofc.

This post was edited by bialator on Nov 19 2010 10:06am

Have you consider a samyang 14/2.8 as the wide angle. I know it's ALOT wider but that's another alternative to the crazy expensive Zeiss28.



Have you ever consider a Tokie/Sigma 12-24? Or even a 24 TS/E? The 24 is ridiculously sharp with almost no distortions. I also agree with Antichrist about not taking portraits with the UWA lens, i've posted this link many times before and it doesn't hurt to post it again. Check it out.

http://stepheneastwood.com/tutorials/Tutorials_Lens_Perspective.htm

And as for the 100L's AF speed. In my own experience, it's anything but fast without using the focus limiter.

I was looking for something like this. Co-worker won't listen
Thanks for sharing.

This post was edited by onepagememory on Nov 19 2010 12:50pm