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May 27 2009 10:52am
Hey guys :d I've just finally become a member of deviantART after tonnes of months of friends trying to get me to join x3 I was just wondering if anybody could clarify the TOS for me... I'm terrible at interpreting these things and I just want to make sure they don't claim rights over your work if you submit it there (which certain other sites do). I thought I read that they did somewhere but these damn things are written as unclear as possible. More specifically, I'm interested what I bolded.

Thanks beforehand.


Specific TOS extract:
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2.      Ownership. Artist at all times retains all right, title and interest in and to the Artist Materials provided by Artist hereunder (including, without limitation, the copyrights in and to the Artist Materials), subject to the non-exclusive rights in the licenses granted to deviantART under this Agreement. Artist is free to grant similar rights to others during and after the Term of this Agreement.

3.      License To Use Artist Materials. As and when Artist Materials are uploaded to the deviantART Site(s), Artist grants to deviantART a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive license to do the following things during the Term:

a)      to prepare and encode Artist Materials or any part of them for digital or analog transmission, manipulation and exhibition in any format and by any means now known or not yet known or invented;

b)    to display, copy, reproduce, exhibit, publicly perform, broadcast, rebroadcast, transmit, retransmit, distribute through any electronic means (including analog and digital) or other means, and electronically or otherwise publish any or all of the Artist Materials, including any part of them, and to include them in compilations for publication, by any and all means and media now known or not yet known or invented ;

c)      to modify, adapt, change or otherwise alter the Artist Materials (e.g., change the size) and use the Artist Materials as described in Section 3(b); and

d)    the right to sublicense to any other person or company any of the licensed rights in the Artist Materials, or any part of them, subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement.

e)    Artist acknowledges that Artist will not have any right, title, or interest in any other materials with which Artist Materials may be combined or into which all or any portion of Artist Materials may be incorporated.

f)      During the Term, deviantART's licenses under this Agreement include the right to use any part of the Artist Materials in the promotion, advertising or marketing of the DeviantART Sites.

g)      As used in this Agreement, the term "Artist Materials" means any content uploaded to the deviantART Site(s) which may include without limitation Artist's name(s) (including professional names), trademarks, trade names, likenesses, photographs, biographical materials, audio-visual materials, artwork, liner notes, and other graphical, textual, video, film or audio materials and any and all "skins," computer-generated images or other artwork or images that Artist submits to deviantART in any medium or format whatsoever.

4.      Name and Likeness. Artist also grants to deviantART:

a)      a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive license to use Artist's name(s), group name, photograph and/or likeness(es) and biographical materials in connection with the distribution, exploitation, promotion, marketing and advertising of the Artist Materials, and the deviantART Site(s)as described hereunder, during the Term;

b)    Artist also agrees not to assert against deviantART any privacy, publicity, moral or similar rights held by Artist and on behalf any other person(s) whose name(s), photographs and/or likeness(es) and/or performances are embodied in the Artist Materials. Artist also agrees that any persons other than Artist appearing recognizably or otherwise in Artist Materials will not assert of any privacy, publicity, moral or similar rights) under the laws of the United States and any other country in connection with the exploitation of the materials as described in this Agreement; and,

c)      To the extent that the Artist Materials contain the name(s), group name, photograph and/or likeness(es) and biographical materials of any other person, Artist hereby grants to deviantART a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive license to use them in connection with the distribution, exploitation, promotion, marketing and advertising of the Artist Materials, as described in this Agreement, during the Term.


This post was edited by Nevereon on May 27 2009 10:56am
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May 27 2009 11:10am
Oh lord... you actually read those stupid terms of use?? lol I created an account there awhile ago but never really posted anything there ^^
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May 27 2009 11:19am
Quote (Futurama @ Wed, 27 May 2009, 18:10)
Oh lord... you actually read those stupid terms of use?? lol I created an account there awhile ago but never really posted anything there ^^

Ofcourse x3 I always read these things. You'd be surprised by the kind of insane terms certain sites have.
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May 27 2009 11:22am
It basically means they can use your art for whatever they want. Not meaning to be rude with this comment, but the likelyhood of them doing so is incredibly low, and even if they did, you'd be getting your name exposed, which is important.
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May 27 2009 11:23am
Is there a fee to open an account with them?
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May 27 2009 11:24am
Quote (Futurama @ Wed, 27 May 2009, 19:10)
Oh lord... you actually read those stupid terms of use?? lol I created an account there awhile ago but never really posted anything there ^^


You should! They can use your photos with out your permission and they own the picture. :(
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May 27 2009 11:26am
Quote (Veilside @ Wed, 27 May 2009, 18:22)
It basically means they can use your art for whatever they want. Not meaning to be rude with this comment, but the likelyhood of them doing so is incredibly low, and even if they did, you'd be getting your name exposed, which is important.

No offense taken :P I realize that, I've just personally never felt comfortable with such terms, but meh. Thanks for the clarification.

Quote (MotherOfTwo @ Wed, 27 May 2009, 18:23)
Is there a fee to open an account with them?


Nope! It's free :P

This post was edited by Nevereon on May 27 2009 11:26am
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May 27 2009 11:29am
Quote (Qhotex @ Wed, May 27 2009, 06:24pm)
You should! They can use your photos with out your permission and they own the picture. :(


There are easy ways to deal with it, namely uploading 72 DPI shots, low resolution images that they couldn't use for anything even if they wanted to.

Quote (Nevereon @ Wed, May 27 2009, 06:26pm)
No offense taken :P I realize that, I've just personally never felt comfortable with such terms, but meh. Thanks for the clarification.



Just whack the DPI down to 72 and make the resolution no bigger than 800 (at the longest edge) when you upload stuff.

Anyway, I'm sure most similar sites have similar TOS, the only real way around it is to just upload work to your own site.

You could always just stick your own watermark on the images as well.
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May 27 2009 11:34am
Quote (Qhotex @ Wed, May 27 2009, 11:24am)
You should! They can use your photos with out your permission and they own the picture. :(


Quote (Nevereon @ Wed, May 27 2009, 11:19am)
Ofcourse x3 I always read these things. You'd be surprised by the kind of insane terms certain sites have.


hahaha yeah I guess I am usually just waaaay too lazy to read those stuff lmao I know it's a bad habit that I probably need to break but oh well -_-


At least now I put watermarks on the photos I upload on certain sites ^^

This post was edited by Futurama on May 27 2009 11:35am
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May 27 2009 11:44am
Quote (Futurama @ Wed, 27 May 2009, 13:34)
hahaha yeah I guess I am usually just waaaay too lazy to read those stuff lmao I know it's a bad habit that I probably need to break but oh well  -_-


At least now I put watermarks on the photos I upload on certain sites ^^


What do you mean 'put watermarks'?
I know this is not my topic, sorry for invading...
But I have been thinking also about putting some of my favorite pictures somewhere...
So if you guys have other suggestions, maybe the thread maker (as long as me ofc ;) ) would benefit from your experiences...
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