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Nov 3 2010 09:12am
Quote (bialator @ Nov 3 2010 10:34am)
Ok, as no one is trying to keep it clean, I will say my opinion as well...

The them name is Motion, it is obvious that it can be interpreted in many ways but:

Photography is always stopping something, normally is the complete opposite of motion. I love like picture number 5, but is is not giving me the sensation of motion, so I did not vote for it.

Other pics has maybe a better subject (see picture 4) but composition and technique are important as well and let me say that in this contest composition and technique are nothing special in almost all of the pics.

So, stopping an action in the simplest thing you can do, not something original at all, not something very different from a normal pic. I understand Antichrist's comment.

For me, only 1,2 and 15 are original ideas and technique is fine in all of them.

That is my idea of course and not the law, but please, think about it before you vote.

If we consider only technique is another thing, but to improve we must find the best compromise between the topic and the realization and to give the idea of movement is the interpretation I believe more correct.

For the future I would believe that it is better to have separate topics for voting and chatting...


In my opinion I don't think #1 is that original, I do those types of photos frequently, I love them.
But I don't think it's a bad photo either, it has my vote.

I vote for #1.
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Nov 3 2010 09:21am
#4, I love it! :)
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Nov 3 2010 09:30am
Quote (balakain @ 3 Nov 2010 16:12)
In my opinion I don't think #1 is that original, I do those types of photos frequently, I love them.
But I don't think it's a bad photo either, it has my vote.

I vote for #1.


Original compared to the others ofc :)

In the end this is a diablo forum, not a specialized one!

Btw, if number one wins I want my part of FGs :P
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Nov 3 2010 09:47am
Quote (Antichrist- @ Nov 2 2010 07:53pm)
if you are assigned to shoot something in particular way you gotta do so, no matter what side of the industry you are. its just that on some sides of the industry you arent gives so strict rules of how to shoot the assignment


Frankly, no.
The only type of client that's going to be strict about the way something is, is a client with experience on the subject.
If you explain something concisely to a client, and explain to them why you'd want to change something, most will listen. Arguably, clients with more money are going to be looking for creatives that push the envelope, not people that can conform to certain styles.
If you're comfortable just doing exactly what the client asks, without trying to suggest better options, when better options exist , frankly, I think you're just being mediocre, doing that is no way to grow as a creative individual, and isn't a way of thinking that should be encouraged.

Quote (Antichrist- @ Nov 2 2010 08:20pm)
lol

a change in position of an object with respect to time. lets analyze this sentence a little.

time in this case means the exposure time, and change in position of an object in this exposure time is what causes motion blur in a picture.

so how exactly are you going to capture a change in objects movement inside shutter speed without creating a motion blur?

what comes to that motion blur on #4, yes there is a barely noticeable amount of motion blur on the wings, but the picture itself doesent represent motion. if you go to a photography school this is the first thing they teach you about how to do your assignments


Again, I disagree, the implication of motion is more important than the motion itself. Whether you imply the motion through panning, through a long exposure, through strobing, etc, is irrelevant. Freezing motion is just as valid a technique as those I've just listed before, and can be even more important depending on what you're trying to shoot.

Quote (Antichrist- @ Nov 2 2010 08:36pm)
#4 and #12 would fall into theme catching the moment, thats the exact opposite of motion. im not complaining about pictures or the theme, im just saying that if there is a theme, people should follow it.

whats the point of even having a theme unless people dont post pictures that fit the theme and are still allowed to participate?


Having a theme is good, but having a theme that gives people creative possibilities is even better. Your kind of thinking is exactly what hinders real creativity. There are many "rules" in photography, and I'd argue that knowing when to break them is far more important than knowing the rule itself.

Quote (Antichrist- @ Nov 2 2010 11:15pm)
sorry i take back some of what i said. you dont need to have motion blur to show motion if you flash your strobe multiple times like this:

http://people.rit.edu/andpph/photofile-misc/strobe-motion-ta-08.jpg

now im starting to feel that you are just fucking with me. explain what part of all of this you dont understand or ill just assume that you are playing dumb


Honestly dude, I think you're just not particularly well educated on the subject.
Keep an open mind, study more on the subject and continue to grow, don't let yourself be blinkered by certain ways of thinking.
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Nov 3 2010 10:26am
Quote (Futurama @ Nov 3 2010 07:15am)
Oh geez I think he was just being picky.
That's all. At least he wasn't being rude and say this forum isn't good for him or anything like that.
He may be a pain the butt sometimes but at least he seems to be a somewhat humble person.


When someone is only being negative in about 100 posts when nobody ever asked for critiques, he is not contributing at all to the contest. This irritates me. Everyone can decide for himself what he thinks is important when judging the pictures. We don't need a guide on what is important. Submit your picture, vote, and that's it. Don't spam the topic with negative comments nobody asked for. Dissapointing how a few people are acting in here.

This post was edited by SeaBas on Nov 3 2010 10:27am
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Nov 3 2010 11:12am
i think just vote for your favourite pic regardless of theme.
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Nov 3 2010 11:14am
Quote (qwnwy @ Nov 3 2010 06:12pm)
i think just vote for your favourite pic regardless of theme.


That's just silly.
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Nov 3 2010 11:18am
Quote (Veilside @ 3 Nov 2010 17:14)
That's just silly.


i think not, this is an amateur forum for fun, if there will be problems like this, we should not bother, i entered the competition and i am happy to compete against all pictures in the list.

If you are not happy then retract your entry or something? no point to moan, it will not change the entry.

would u rather disqualify 90% of the entries?

i would rather lose to a "non" montion picture than win against 3-5 entries
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Nov 3 2010 11:23am
Quote (qwnwy @ Nov 3 2010 06:18pm)
i think not, this is an amateur forum for fun, if there will be problems like this, we should not bother, i entered the competition and i am happy to compete against all pictures in the list.

If you are not happy then retract your entry or something? no point to moan, it will not change the entry.

would u rather disqualify 90% of the entries?

i would rather lose to a "non" montion picture than win against 3-5 entries


I don't think you've paid too much attention to what I've been saying in this thread.

Having a theme is a good thing, being naive about the theme is not, and people should be encouraged to play around with it more.
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Nov 3 2010 11:24am
Quote (Veilside @ 3 Nov 2010 17:23)
I don't think you've paid too much attention to what I've been saying in this thread.

Having a theme is a good thing, being naive about the theme is not, and people should be encouraged to play around with it more.


point taken, but whats the solution ?

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