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Dec 22 2010 10:40am
Quote (Eek @ 22 Dec 2010 19:25)
I know there will be a difference especially indoors when you may not have the room to use a 85mm lens. But it's so close that i personally can't justify having two $400-$500 lens. Maybe a 85/1.8 and a nifty fifty.

Edit: I think i know where you're getting now, if you're shooting professionally.. it's good to have redundant gear?



I agree with using the zoom in a studio condition stepped down. Unless you're doing special effects with low DoF.


i wouldnt get 50mm +85mm combo either(unless it was 85mm 1.2 + 50mm 1.4), id go with 50mm + 135mm instead. 85mm is just barely enough to shoot head portraits with full frame, 50mm isnt long enough for this, its a normal lens instead small tele. even tho they dont have huge difference in focal length, they are still different lenses for different purposes. i wasnt implying to having redundant gear as professional, no idea where you got that from.
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Quote (Antichrist- @ Dec 22 2010 12:40pm)
i wouldnt get 50mm +85mm combo either(unless it was 85mm 1.2 + 50mm 1.4), id go with 50mm + 135mm instead. 85mm is just barely enough to shoot head portraits with full frame, 50mm isnt long enough for this, its a normal lens instead small tele. even tho they dont have huge difference in focal length, they are still different lenses for different purposes. i wasnt implying to having redundant gear as professional, no idea where you got that from.


It came from a highly evolved brain in the 21st century homosapien. :lol:

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It came from a highly evolved brain in the 21st century homosapien.  :lol:


not evolved enough since you got it wrong :P
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Dec 22 2010 12:13pm
Gear redundancy is too important to not have. I had to use the 100-400 for a wedding when the 70-200 II fucked up.
Another thing that you'll benefit from having a 50mm and an 85 mm is that each lens as a different bokeh quality and feel. If you wish to produce superior work, you must consider this as well.
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Quote (onepagememory @ Dec 22 2010 08:13pm)
Gear redundancy is too important to not have. I had to use the 100-400 for a wedding when the 70-200 II fucked up.
Another thing that you'll benefit from having a 50mm and an 85 mm is that each lens as a different bokeh quality and feel. If you wish to produce superior work, you must consider this as well.


yes sir !!!!!


By the way, considering the fact I`d most likely be using a 70-200mm for people and portraits, wouldnt getting the f2.8 L USM ( non IS ) Mk II be better than getting the f4 L IS USM ?! I guess I wont really need the IS for people and portraits, as I could easily be using shutter speeds of around 160 with the f2.8 lens. And they are about the same price.
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Quote (onepagememory @ Dec 22 2010 02:13pm)
Gear redundancy is too important to not have. I had to use the 100-400 for a wedding when the 70-200 II fucked up.
Another thing that you'll benefit from having a 50mm and an 85 mm is that each lens as a different bokeh quality and feel. If you wish to produce superior work, you must consider this as well.


100-400 seems really slow unless you're in a really bright church mang. Even then you'll need to jack up the ISO

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yes sir !!!!!


By the way, considering the fact I`d most likely be using a 70-200mm for people and portraits, wouldnt getting the f2.8 L USM ( non IS ) Mk II be better than getting the f4 L IS USM ?! I guess I wont really need the IS for people and portraits, as I could easily be using shutter speeds of around 160 with the f2.8 lens. And they are about the same price.


I'm not sure i'm reading this right.. But there is no Mark II Non-IS

Order from sharpest to least sharp (70-200s)

70-200 f/2.8L IS Mark II USM
70-200 f/4L IS USM (extremely close to the mark II in sharpness)

70-200 f/4L
70-200 f/2.8L Non-IS
70-200 f/2.8L IS USM

But IMO IS helps ALOT regardless
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Quote (RecoveryChannel @ Dec 22 2010 11:44am)
yes sir !!!!!


By the way, considering the fact I`d most likely be using a 70-200mm for people and portraits, wouldnt getting the f2.8 L USM ( non IS ) Mk II be better than getting the f4 L IS USM ?! I guess I wont really need the IS for people and portraits, as I could easily be using shutter speeds of around 160 with the f2.8 lens. And they are about the same price.


The F4 L IS is a ton sharper than the 2.8L Non is. I don't think there's a II non is version. Since you don't need the extra F stop, I'd go with the F4 L IS. I have one as my backup for the 70-200 2.8 L IS II
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Quote (Eek @ Dec 22 2010 11:48am)
100-400 seems really slow unless you're in a really bright church mang. Even then you'll need to jack up the ISO



I'm not sure i'm reading this right.. But there is no Mark II Non-IS

Order from sharpest to least sharp (70-200s)

70-200 f/2.8L IS Mark II USM
70-200 f/4L IS USM (extremely close to the mark II in sharpness)

70-200 f/4L
70-200 f/2.8L Non-IS
70-200 f/2.8L IS USM

But IMO IS helps ALOT regardless


It was extremely slow and I had to shoot @ iso 3200. Also added some flash compensation. But you know NR from LR2 + 5d MK II pulled it off perfectly.

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It was extremely slow and I had to shoot @ iso 3200. Also added some flash compensation.  But you know NR from LR2 + 5d MK II pulled it off perfectly.


Then the NR in LR3 would make you cream your pants :D
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I'm sorry i meant LR3. Not sure why I put 2.
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