what do you mean "how you´re going to use it". I guess I`ll use it for indoor and outdoor portraiture and ladscape.

5DII will be better for landscapes and portraits. The full frame sensor gives the exceptional DOF that antichrist is always talking about, plus your lenses will be wider on a FF sensor which is great for landscapes. In terms of image quality, both the 5D and 5DII will beat the 7D for your style of shooting due to their huge sensors.

The 7D beats both 5Ds in terms of handling, FPS, and autofocus, and features. The 7D would be a better choice for action/sports photography. Plus it's a crop sensor, so you'll get extra reach out of your long lenses. A good combo would be a 5D or 5DII with a 7D as a backup. It's similar to the popular 1DmkIII + 5DII combo. (which has now been replaced by 1D IV + 1DsIII which is mega bucks)

For your needs, the 5D would be a great camera. If you're going to buy a 5DII, I would save the money and wait for the 5DIII. The 5DIII will most likely address the AF issues that people aren't happy with on the 5DII. From what I'm hearing, the 5DIII should be out in 2011. If you're going to go for a used 5D classic, just make sure it has low actuations from a reputable seller. I would get one from a non-pro/wedding photog, because obviously those cameras will take more abuse than a hobbyist who babied his 5D and now wants to upgrade to a 5DII or 1 series.

This post was edited by bergmann on Nov 11 2010 10:23am

If your intentions are professional, money-making portraiture + landscape, then you'd likely benefit most from a full frame. You can always save up for a used 5d MK II (~1600), as it is likely the best well-lit portraiture camera on the prosumer market. The AF won't matter if you're controlling light (and it's great outdoors).

I don't agree with this. You don't need a fixed AF system, and the IQ of a 5D II is already incredible. If the 5D III comes out (usually announced by Canon on late Jan early Feb), the 5D II will depreciate and you can take advantage of the lower prices then.

My first 5d MK II has about 80k shots, so I plan on selling it at ~100-120k. Do not purchase from a wedding photographer He's right about buying from a rich photo enthusiast that thinks upgrading to a 1D will make him insta pro (although it will compared to Nikon users). These guys usually read more forums than they go out and practice, are hardcore gear geeks, and likely baby their gear insanely.

uhmmmm thanks for that. I guess it´ll take ages until they´ll release a 5D Mark III. and I guess I cant really afford a Mark II atm, as I want to get a new lens aswell.





and yes, I have professional intentions.

This post was edited by RecoveryChannel on Nov 11 2010 10:26am

I should qualify my statement that the 5D classic will beat the 7D in terms of image quality. The 7D has great IQ, there's no doubt about that. You probably won't notice a difference without looking very closely in terms of raw sharpness. But FF sensors will give you the DOF you want for portraits. When I say image quality in this case, I'm talking about how the pictures look, not necessarily how sharp they are. The 7D would produce sharper images than the 5D classic if you compared pixels.

If you have professional intentions, I would suggest that you invest in good lenses over the newest body at this point. A 5D classic with high quality lenses will be a great combo for you. Then if you have enough money, you can make the jump to 5DIII or whatever when it's released. The 5DIII will be THE camera to have in 2011.

This post was edited by bergmann on Nov 11 2010 10:30am

Although most will say "ZOMG GEAR DOESN"T MATTER GOOD PICTURZ W/ BAD GEAR IS POSSIBLE," i believe that one of the things that improved my photography (quality wise) the most was going to full frame. I went from Sony to Canon only because of the 5d MK II. Otherwise, I may have ended up in the dark telephoto lens side (for those who get it :D).

If you can offer a high quality product (because that's what your photo services are) at a decent or even bargain price, you'll likely end up successfully earning money from photography.

Well, buying a used 5DII is a different story. My point is that picking between a used 5D classic (good value) and a new 5DII, I wouldn't take the 5DII at this point because you might as well wait for the 5DIII if you're going to buy a new camera and spend that kind of money on it. A used 5DII at this point would be a great choice also, but then again prices will drop in the near future when the 5D3 is released, so you might want to wait until then anyway.

when do you expect a 5D III to release?

Canon normally announces new gear on Late Jan early Feb