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Sep 22 2010 04:46pm
Quote (CitizenScuba @ Sep 22 2010 04:33pm)
I see a couple Nikon guys down there... Haha... You've showed this to me before... And I believe it was over a very similar discussion...


well then I guess we'll just agree to disagree :p
In my opinion both manufacturers offer some excellent product
though there are a few exceptions like the new EOS 60D... :rolleyes:
God! I can't hate Canon enough for have ruined the x0D line. To me
they haven't really released a good xxD camera since the 40D...

I am as angry as the Mexican guy in this Mad TV sketch. :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDMkFA241fA
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Sep 23 2010 12:19am
Quote (Futurama @ 22 Sep 2010 20:20)
Ah I didn't know that. I thought a 1800 dollar lens would at least have 1:1 magnification :rolleyes:
but you are right the fantastic image quality is undeniable. Well there is also this new 35mm f1.4
I have the Canon version and I am not very impressed by it's performance wide open due to the
large amount of CA but that could be a user error :blush:
Personally I choose primes mainly for their larger apertures but I just can't ignore the convenience of
the zooms especially I am one of those who don't like to change lenses too often :D  Canon has a few
excellent zoom lenses like the 24-70 f2.8L, 70-200 f2.8 IS II and the new 70-300L looks promising too.

Are you saying the 14-24 is too wide? lol I've found my current Sigma 10-20 lens not wide enough in some situations
and it's 16mm on a 1.6x crop. There is also a Sigma 12-24 but I have heard it produces huge amount of flares when
having a bright light source in or just outside of the frame.

I have seen wedding photographers using the D700 and D3 so unless you plan on printing really really large prints
it's 12 mpixel sensor should be more than enough. If you are into MF lenses Canon has the advantage in being able
to use Nikon lenses with an adapter which for some reason Nikons can't.


Not too wide, too big in size!

Have you seen the samyang (or how the hell it is written) 14 2.8? Photozone says good things and it is around 300 euros :D
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Sep 23 2010 12:27am
Quote (bialator @ 23 Sep 2010 09:19)
Not too wide, too big in size!

Have you seen the samyang (or how the hell it is written) 14 2.8? Photozone says good things and it is around 300 euros :D


i have read alot of reviews about it and watched sample photos. it seems like really good lens for the price, even compares to some much expensive lenses, but it has weird type of wobbly distortion. only downside is that its manual focus only, but with lens that wide its really easy to focus because dof is so wide, but if you stop it down a bit and set the focus in the middle and you get focus from nearly minimum focus to infinity. i think ill buy it when i get some money

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Not too wide, too big in size!

Have you seen the samyang (or how the hell it is written) 14 2.8? Photozone says good things and it is around 300 euros :D


Too big?? Then I guess you haven't seen the Nikon and Canon 24-70 f2.8 lenses or the EF 85 f1.2L II :D

I have seen some photos taken with that lens and it seems like a great lens though I don't know where and how to buy it though.
If it's something I can't find within the country I am now I wouldn't bother because I hate to deal with the custom service or whatever

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=909272
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Sep 23 2010 12:48am
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Too big?? Then I guess you haven't seen the Nikon and Canon 24-70 f2.8 lenses or the EF 85 f1.2L II :D

I have seen some photos taken with that lens and it seems like a great lens though I don't know where and how to buy it though.
If it's something I can't find within the country I am now I wouldn't bother because I hate to deal with the custom service or whatever

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=909272


I do I do, but I prefer smaller lenses with no front bult... Can you imagine if you scratch it? No no, thanks. And form my way of shooting, for wide lenses at least it is far better a smaller fix focal lens. That is 18 3.5 Zeiss could be THE lens, shame I need more money to change body and wide angle :D

Anyway as for the Macro lens, I am pleased with my 100 canon with IS, also used ar portrait lens or normal lens is giving me very good and sharp shoots.
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Sep 23 2010 01:29am
Quote (Antichrist- @ Sep 22 2010 11:06am)
oh yea i forgot that there was no commercial photography before 20+ mp sensors


Why are you so angry? Unless he's doing sports, the 5d MK II >. I've got first hand experience. Some high-end ad agencies are requiring 18+ MP on product images. I can only see that increasing. You think all ads are ~16x20 size max?

http://www.radiantlite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/canon-sports-cameras-white-lenses.jpg

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Sep 23 2010 01:54am
Quote (Antichrist- @ Sep 23 2010 04:06am)
oh yea i forgot that there was no commercial photography before 20+ mp sensors


Real commercial photographers don't use Nikon or Canon ;)
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Sep 24 2010 12:43am
Quote (lithfkn @ 23 Sep 2010 08:54)
Real commercial photographers don't use Nikon or Canon ;)


Depends on fields.

In any case one thing is for sure:

both are great cameras and after the news that there will be no updates for now, every choice is a good choice :D


Have anyone tested the new 60 macro ( G ) on the D700?
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Sep 24 2010 01:40am
Quote (bialator @ Sep 24 2010 12:43am)
Depends on fields.

In any case one thing is for sure:

both are great cameras and after the news that there will be no updates for now, every choice is a good choice :D


Have anyone tested the new 60 macro ( G ) on the D700?


I haven't used that lens but I believe 60mm is too short for serious macro because you have to be within like 50cm (1.5ft) which isn't really a good working distance if don't want to scare away the bugs lol.
I shot with a Canon 135mm non-macro the past summer and I found it's minimum focus distance of 3ft not enough when shooting larger bugs like katydids and some butterflies. If you ever go Nikon I
believe their 105mm VR macro would be a much better choice.
The very same thing can be said about the Zeiss 50mm macro you mentioned above.

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I do I do, but I prefer smaller lenses with no front bult... Can you imagine if you scratch it? No no, thanks. And form my way of shooting, for wide lenses at least it is far better a smaller fix focal lens. That is 18 3.5 Zeiss could be THE lens, shame I need more money to change body and wide angle :D

Anyway as for the Macro lens, I am pleased with my 100 canon with IS, also used ar portrait lens or normal lens is giving me very good and sharp shoots.


Oh pfft those large aperture high quality lenses all have massive front elements. This is why I use a filter AND lens hood on my lenses. Some lenses like Canon 135mm f2L and 24-70L have very deep hoods so scratching them are very unlikely. Besides large lenses give a better grip when mounted on a large body like 5D mk2 and D700 so you don't have to hold the cameras as if they are point and shoots :D

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Sep 24 2010 02:07am
I know the pros anc cons, but I prefer a light lens in case I go to Nikon, it would also be a walk around sharp lens!

My 100 canon is great, but heavy and long as I am not a professional, size counts!
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