wowowo calm down its nothing to get stressed about

who cares whos better at taking pictures?

Ok. I love you Veilside. Take some real weddings shots so I can critique them according to the Photography Forum's Rules!

He's probably better than me but I'm making money off what little I can do. I just want to let my fellow photographers know what the industry is like in the real world and not in magazines ^^

i perfer to keep photography as a hobby but i know you have to be pretty good to be a professional

Can you be a little nicer about that? I am not here to argue. Also, I am not Veilside.

What rules? There are no rules.

I was just trying to say that I didn't know that the noise comes onto photos when you downsize them, and if I would have known that I wouldn't have said anything about noise.

Either that or you confused the hell out of me on that comment.

This post was edited by chantal7 on Nov 4 2009 02:35pm

It does when you macro compress on Photobatch. The two reasons you compress an image are 1) to make download/upload easier and 2) so people won't steal them.

Long way to go for me

Ok - thank you for clarifying

Btw you can reply in just one reply instead of quoting each reply. You could have all of that in one post

This post was edited by chantal7 on Nov 4 2009 02:38pm

Love you too darling. I don't have the gear to shoot weddings, nor the interest, I'm more interested in keeping it as a hobby and doing studio work when I can, commercial photography doesn't really interest me, I'm more interested in the fine art aspects of it.



It's all fair and well to make money, but it's definitely not the kind of behaviour to encourage. I think most of us are already aware at how easy it is to make money out of someone, however most of us are sensible enough not to advertise a service we know we'd not be able to produce great shots for.
I sincerely hope, for your sake, that you never have to come across a riled customer, who realises that they've paid for an amateur to photograph something as important as their wedding.

If I can offer a suggestion, go speak to some old timers that've been in the industry a while, and ask if you can act as their apprentice, you'll learn a huge amount doing that.

Grandfather was a photographer for 60 years. Two aunts are too.
You have to understand that the kind of work I do does not target upper class citizens who request high-end photography. The largest wedding I did is a 250k budget. High-end photography requires expensive equipment that's worth over 40k (primarily a camera that can handle noise), several light boys, 2-3 photographers, and a lot of time. Constantly-shifting lighting, wedding planners, and point-n-shooter guest flashes make this very difficult. This is why NY photographers - presumably some of the best in the world - offer packages with 60 images in an album.
I'm not going to make a magazine out of your wedding unless you ask for it, and I will charge accordingly. I will make your images, when printed on 4x6 (which is what most people look for), look great. That is why I claim that quantity > quality, as long as quality remains acceptable to the customer.
As photographers, we see images and can criticize easily. Think before you ever learned photography: unless the colours were off and the image was noisy, you wouldn't look into little details such as light, shadows, focus points, and would hardly consider "quality."
The images I provided were low end, taken by an a200 (or a100 can't remember). I make friends out of every customer I have. The shots aren't bad. They're just not what you're used to calling "art."

Or for the tl;tr'ers: Art photography is art photography, business photography is business photography.