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Apr 5 2009 11:13am
Quote (Virtue @ Sun, Apr 5 2009, 04:47pm)
Damn, I was really hoping to get a camera either before I went to North Carolina or I went on my wild flower field trip for Environmental class :\
But if you guys think it's really worth it to wait then I guess I will

How long do you think it'll take for the prices to drop after the 500D is released?
And do you have a date when it;s coming out?


5th May: Source - Amazon.

The economy is unstable, so it's hard to say - prices are going up and down every day.

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Apr 5 2009 01:51pm
I just got back from my local Ritz Camera's, and it was a bunch of bum's working there, they were no help <_<
I headed over to Best Buy and there was a guy there that was REALLY helpful.
He shoots 35mm film camera, but he helped me out alot.

He told me for what I want to shoot [landscapes, natures, cityscapes, etc] Nikon surpases Canon because the way their shutter is lets the camera take in more detail of a still shot than a Canon does.
But he told me Canons are better when shooting action shots opposed to the Nikon.

He recommended the Nikon D60, but said if I could find a D80 somewhere [because they were discontinued] to definetly go for that.

What do you guys think? Is what he said right or no?
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Apr 5 2009 02:25pm
500d or used 40d, or then 400d if you want cheap.

There is one cool thing about nikons if your into it. There are really much old manual lenses that you can get really cheap used. Bad thing about it is that there is no focus motor in those cheap nikons like d60 so you dont have as much autofocus lenses from normal lens line up, and you need lenses with autofocus motor build in. d90 and better have autofocus motor inside the camera. All canon eos lenses have af motor built in, or atleast all that arent made for manual focus. You can get old cheap used lenses ffor canon allso using an adapter, for example m42 lenses. There are adapters that support cameras focus confirmation for those manual lenses, they cost maybe 25-35 dollars and you might find some pretty good lenses for like 60-150 dollars.

This post was edited by Antichrist- on Apr 5 2009 02:32pm
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Quote (Antichrist- @ Sun, Apr 5 2009, 09:25pm)
500d or used 40d


Mate if a Canon 40D/50D or a 500D was sitting in front of you, what would you pick?

Quote (Virtue @ Sun, Apr 5 2009, 08:51pm)
I just got back from my local Ritz Camera's, and it was a bunch of bum's working there, they were no help &#60;_&#60;
I headed over to Best Buy and there was a guy there that was REALLY helpful.
He shoots 35mm film camera, but he helped me out alot.

He told me for what I want to shoot [landscapes, natures, cityscapes, etc] Nikon surpases Canon because the way their shutter is lets the camera take in more detail of a still shot than a Canon does.
But he told me Canons are better when shooting action shots opposed to the Nikon.

He recommended the Nikon D60, but said if I could find a D80 somewhere [because they were discontinued] to definetly go for that.

What do you guys think? Is what he said right or no?


Canon. If that is true, Canon's superior optics will easily make up for that. Nikons are only better when u get to D300++ level, imo


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Apr 5 2009 02:42pm
Quote (doyleo @ Sun, Apr 5 2009, 03:32pm)
Mate if a Canon 40D/50D or a 500D was sitting in front of you, what would you pick?



Canon. If that is true, Canon's superior optics will easily make up for that. Nikons are only better when u get to D300++ level, imo


I'm looking to spend about 600.
He recommended a Nikon D60. But he said if I can find a D80 online somewhere then I should buy that over the D60
I want to shoot mainly nature, landscape, cityscape, etc.
So is his recommendation bad?
If so can you link me to a camera around that price range please ^_^

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Quote (Virtue @ Sun, Apr 5 2009, 09:42pm)
I'm looking to spend about 600.
He recommended a Nikon D60. But he said if I can find a D80 online somewhere then I should buy that over the D60
I want to shoot mainly nature, landscape, cityscape, etc.
So is his recommendation bad?
If so can you link me to a camera around that price range please ^_^


ok heres what Antichrist was saying:

With the Nikon D60 you have a very limited choice of lens if you want the lens and camera to Focus for you (you want this a lot)
With the Canon camera's you've been recommended they are fully compatable with over 100 Lenses of all shapes sizes and prices and you will not need to worry about focusing because the camera takes care of this very well.

The nikon D80 is about $900 (with a nikon lens)
The canon equivelent, the XSI is <$700 (with a canon lens)

They are really similar cameras and if i had a choice between the two id get the latter.


But im with Antichrist- on this one:
Get a used Canon 40D or if you want a new camera get a 400D (XTI) or a 450D (XSI). <-- Only get an XSI if it is a similar price to the XTI.






This post was edited by doyleo on Apr 5 2009 03:08pm
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hey. I was in your shoes about three weeks ago. after about two weeks of reserch I had narrowed it down to the XSi or the XS.

I have had my XSi for about two weeks and I LOVE it. I have no bad things to say about it. If you do but it you will NOT be dissapointed I swear. The only thing I'm having trouble with is shooting sports in low light - but that is only because I don't have a good enough lense. I know it must be really hard waiting for the price drop on the 500D - personally unless it was a significant drop I would probably not buy the 500D, but that is just me. There has never been a time where I've wished that my DSLR could take video - because 99% of the time I know when I want to be taking a video vs taking a picture.

No matter what you do though - don't cheap out. I put some extra hours to get the XSi over the XS and I'm glad I did. The saying "you get what you pay for" is 100% true when it comes to photography.

If you have any specific questions I'd be happy to answer them :)
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Quote (doyleo @ Sun, Apr 5 2009, 04:01pm)
ok heres what Antichrist was saying:

With the Nikon D60 you have a very limited choice of lens if you want the lens and camera to Focus for you (you want this a lot)
With the Canon camera's you've been recommended they are fully compatable with over 100 Lenses of all shapes sizes and prices and you will not need to worry about focusing because the camera takes care of this very well.

The nikon D80 is about $900 (with a nikon lens)
The canon equivelent, the XSI is <$700 (with a canon lens)

They are really similar cameras and if i had a choice between the two id get the latter.


But im with Antichrist- on this one:
Get a used Canon 40D or if you want a new camera get a 400D (XTI) or a 450D (XSI). &#60;-- Only get an XSI if it is a similar price to the XTI.


Like I said, I can not find a 400D.
Every site I've checked doesn't have them or says they're "discontinued".
If anyone can help me find a site that has a 400D [preferably one that offers warranty] please let me know because that's the camera I was orignally wanting to buy.

Btw, the guy showed me some pictures of landscapes/nature from Canon and Nikon's and the Nikon's tended to be a little better, but the Canon's action shots were better than the Nikon's.
Is this true for all Canon's/Nikon's or was it just the camera that it was taken with?

Quote (xsordx @ Sun, Apr 5 2009, 05:02pm)
hey. I was in your shoes about three weeks ago. after about two weeks of reserch I had narrowed it down to the XSi or the XS.

I have had my XSi for about two weeks and I LOVE it. I have no bad things to say about it. If you do but it you will NOT be dissapointed I swear. The only thing I'm having trouble with is shooting sports in low light - but that is only because I don't have a good enough lense. I know it must be really hard waiting for the price drop on the 500D - personally unless it was a significant drop I would probably not buy the 500D, but that is just me. There has never been a time where I've wished that my DSLR could take video - because 99% of the time I know when I want to be taking a video vs taking a picture.

No matter what you do though - don't cheap out. I put some extra hours to get the XSi over the XS and I'm glad I did. The saying "you get what you pay for" is 100% true when it comes to photography.

If you have any specific questions I'd be happy to answer them :)


Aren't XSi's like $850 though? :\
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Apr 5 2009 05:20pm
Get the Canon t1i, or XSi, or XS (If you want the cheapest.)

It's so easy to look stuff up on dpreview.
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Apr 5 2009 05:27pm
Quote (Virtue @ Sun, Apr 5 2009, 11:49pm)
Like I said, I can not find a 400D.
Every site I've checked doesn't have them or says they're "discontinued".
If anyone can help me find a site that has a 400D [preferably one that offers warranty] please let me know because that's the camera I was orignally wanting to buy.

Btw, the guy showed me some pictures of landscapes/nature from Canon and Nikon's and the Nikon's tended to be a little better, but the Canon's action shots were better than the Nikon's.
Is this true for all Canon's/Nikon's or was it just the camera that it was taken with?



Aren't XSi's like $850 though? :\


As i said, look on amazon - the xsi is <$700

Instead of asking people to post links, why not go to this site and type in ''canon XTI''
http://www.google.com/products
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