Black and white photography can be considered as both.



Fair enough, I don't mind you telling me what you don't like about them, in fact, being able to accept criticism is a good thing, you cannot improve upon your art if you're incapable of seeing the faults in it.

Don't worry about the language barrier, if I misunderstand something just point it out to me and I'll try to understand it better.

Do you mean that you dont really care if i tell how i think the composition is wrong on them or you dont mind me telling that there is something wrong if i tell you whats wrong? I wouldnt care to write that much about the pics if you dont really care.

Enyways i get the idea that you think i cant see the mistakes in my pics. Its not like that, its that some of these mistakes arent so bad that it would fully ruing the pic. It really sounds like you got no idea what i have been talking about all this time if i need to tell you that last sentence again..

I mean that I'm interested in what you've got to say about my photos, whether it's praise, critique or both.

If you can see the mistakes in your own photo why are you asking for so much help? I think the sky in this photo looks great, but the rest of the photo ruins it, that's just my opinion. How exactly do you feel about your own photo?

Well i got so much to say about them, it would take all night writing about them, especially since you dont understand finnish. So pick a pic that you want my opinion on and ill tell you what i think about it.

What comes on this pic, i think the sky turned out great(looks even better on computer), and what comes to other colors, they look way better than in reality, would naturally be much better in summer or even without the snow. But since snow looks ugly, i cant get much out of it, so its kinda bothering, but not so much it would ruin the pic. But imo i got the colors the ground to match the lights color coming from the sky, that makes the foreground and landscape not so bothering, but naturally other landscape would look better with that sky. I like that the sky is covering 2/3th the picture. I think that was enough, i dont want to spend all night analyzing it. But in a nut shell, there is good sky imo, theres things bothering, but not that much that they would ruin the pic totally, imo it worked out as desent.

Ok, critique this one then




The sky does look great, and the colours have come out looking better than normal (which is normal with HDR images), but the composition just isn't good, and for me, the problem doesn't lie with it being snowy, it's just the foreground isn't of any interest.

Pretty much like with all things:

To make fantastic you need to want to make fantastic. Just hoping it happens is not good enough.

haha i was wishing you wouldnt pick that one, because i dont like that kind of photos at all, i just dont find enything intresting about these kind of pics. But ill try to think about something.

Dof should be either bigger or slimmer imo. In middle row thats bit bothering that the bullet goes over that one in back row like that. If the right bullet on the middle row would be bit more on the right side and further away, the left bullet from the top row would be bit more further away. You could make intresting patterns from the bullets, that arent just in single rows, but if you think the row from top right to bottom left you could allso see a row there. About that shit on right bottom, imo there should be more of that all over the pic or then none at all. Those bullets laying down should make some simple rows instead of just being there randomly, it would look bit more intresting to have simple black rows with those other bullets doing row patterns on left to right type while doing rows from up to down and corner to corner. The place where you putted the bullets look good, reflections work well. Composition looks ok, but would be bit better if you would have taken the pic from about 5-7cm more down and right still having the bullets in same area on the screen(assuming this is 50-85mm lens in cropped body). Contrast and colors looks good. That copyright stamp is in wrong place(not really about the pic, but its little annoying there).

Enyways i dont like that pic because i dont find enything intresting in it, even tho the colors and some other things are good they just dont do it for me on plain white background. If you would have chosen some other pic i would have had more good things to say.



I think the same, but to get the wanted resaults you need hella lots of pratice to make it fantastic. Hoping to get good shots isnt enough, but you will lose your hope if your not happy at all with the shots you take while practising to get those fantastic resaults.

This post was edited by Tomes on Feb 26 2009 04:21pm

Hah, good, I pushed you out of your comfort zone

I personally like the DoF (F5.6) as it is, I like being able to see some of the detail, but also everything but the main bullet being ever so slightly out of focus. I don't think a higher fstop would have looked good, but a lower one might well have looked better.
I personally don't agree about the positioning of the bullets but I can see how someone might not like it. The 3:2:1 pattern in the photo is quite interesting though.
The stuff on the bottom right was some dirt on the lightbox the bullets were on, would have been impossible to clean off, I've tried editting it out, but personally, I thought it looked better with it in, makes the photo not look totally clinical.
I took the photo at lots of angles, but that's the one that looked the best to me, going down and right would have totally changed the look, and I quite like the look.
The watermark is put somewhere where it's not easil removeable, which is the whole point, I can see why it's annoying though.

Appreciate the feedback though, I think the photography area would be a lot more interesting if people replied like you just did

no black and white are values not hues. monochromatic refers to the image being all hues of the same color, when achromatic is just black and white.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monochrome