hmm lol well I have been thinking about getting a film camera for awhile now but I am not sure if my photography skills are good enough course I don't want to end up wasting 5345345 rolls of films. Maybe I will learn more about composition and choose more wisely before pressing the shutterbutton if I use a film camera course unlike digital cameras each pic taken by a film camera is not free

Yeah I know about the importance of a good videocard when using graphic software like Photoshop and if I am going to build a new computer in the near future it will definitely be one using PCI express cards course my current computer has the old AGP interface and most newer and high performance video cards are PCI xpress only.
Well I don't know much about workstations but from what I have heard from friends who have vast knowledge about building and overclocking computers they told me that those so called high quality RAMs are not worth buying course they only give unnoticeable performance increase maybe by 1% at most or something like that. So I think you should just stick to those regular RAMs and save money for a very nice video card

Film isn't that expensive, it's when you start needing to buy 120mm Velvia film and then getting that processed that it starts getting expensive.

Well, the vey high quality stuff isn't worth the money, but it's worth getting stuff from a good brand as opposed to cheap, unbraded crap, also, you do want it to have a low latency, so cheapest definitely isn't best.

haha I don't think I will ever use a medium or large format film camera but who knows btw what's so great about those kind of cameras? I mean they are HUGE in size and are probably very slow too with long shutter lag and stuff like that.
I wasn't saying that you should get the cheapest RAMs available it's just not worth spending hundreds or even thousands of dollars on overclockable high quality RAMs

This post was edited by Futurama on Jan 14 2009 09:15am

I'm not looking at spending anymore than £200 for 8GB of ram, that should be more than adequate at the moment.

Of course if I had a lot of money I'd get a dual Xeon server motherboard with 16 ram slots and fill each slot with 8GB sticks...

One can always dream.

haha you are such a computer nerd JK! Man! thats like 400 dollars quite a lot for 8 GB of memory I mean you can probably get a very decent videocard for that kind of money but then again you are going to build a workstation which is probably very different compared to those gaming computers .


I don't you saw the question I asked about medium and large format cameras would be nice if you could tell me what's so great about those other than the much higher resolution


This post was edited by Futurama on Jan 14 2009 09:22am

They are very different, which is why I want to go with a dual Xeon setup if it's at all possible that I can afford it. 8 cores will help a hell of a lot with 3D work.

It's primarily the resolution, a $30k digital Hasselblad doesn't match a high end 120 mm film, and large format just allows for absolutely massive prints, and is far more economically viable for someone that doesn't have the money for a digital back for a camera.
There's no such thing as shutter lag with film cameras, that's only something you find on digital cameras, but if you're shooting low ASA film you will have to compensate by using a slow shutter or wide aperture.

haha well I have read about those ridiculously expensive camera backs like the 60 something Mpixel PhaseOne digital back
Well then I really don't think I will ever use a medium format camera at all course HUGE prints are of no use to me and I really doubt that I will become a fashion photographer or whatever
and I hate huge bulky cameras I mean my EOS 40D is large enough for me and I think if I will upgrade in the future the EOS 5D and it's successors will be my choice because of the compact body and of course quality.

Well good luck building your own workstation and don't forget to post a pic or two of it when you've acquired/built it

Veil, your using a PC right?
I heard Mac Pro's 8 cores Quatro's @ 3.22 ghz are good with 32 Gigs of RAM


By April 2009 I'll have my entire workstation set out.
Dell XPS 630i with 6 Gig's of RAM, Dual nvidia 9800 GT's, 650Gig HD w/ 1Ter. backup HD.
24" LG Scarlet w/ 7.1 surround sound.

Epson Stylus Photo Printer R1900 and a Scanner,faxer,photocopier.

This should be pretty productive and I'll be enrolling in a new SAIT Advanced Digital Photography 20 class so student discounts will be great!
Do you guys have student discounts out there?
And, have you tried CS4 yet? I don't like it that much actually. I just stick with CS3 for now.
The main difference in CS4 is the interface, layout and 3D editing (Which is big if your a big graphic designer or something)

Except you're paying a hell of a lot more for the mac pro compared to an identically kitted out pc workstation. The 32GB ram option alone adds about £4k to the price of the unit.

Yeah, we get student discounts, I can get the CS4 Master Collection for just under £500 using my student discount, as opposed to around £2k, which is something I'd like to do, although there's quite a few other things I'd like to buy first.

The main difference with CS4 is that is uses GPU power for stuff, and it supports 64 bits, so you can use more than 3GB of ram with it.