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Jan 16 2009 07:24am
Quote (Futurama @ Thu, 15 Jan 2009, 23:36)
lol. I am going to stay out of this one.

SAY!!! What happened to you, mr Gab?? I mean you haven't been posting much in here lately and we really miss the photos taken with your new camera tongue.gif
Have you been taking any pictures at all lately? tongue.gif


Yeah :/ I know! I've still been shooting just not uploading >_<" My goddam wireless drivers decided to fail on me and by the time I was able to spend time actually fixing the problem I mistakenly ripped out my wifi antenna sleep.gif" Now I sit in another room near an internet outlet so I can still hook up with a cable, once I get over the loss of my antenna and decide to spend 40dollars on a new one I'll be back in my room =_=" Anyways, point being I made this REALLY annoying to change computer setup in my room awhile back so I haven't been arsed to get the camera cord in the new room. Ontop of this I no longer have photoshop and I'm just to lazy to redownload it so I can actually convert my .raws sad.gif The reason I lost PS was because I changed OP to windows7 a couple weeks ago >__<" I'm also simultaneously swamped with school leaving short time for me to actually complete any of these tasks... xD I'll hopefully get my lazy butt to do it soon sad.gif
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Jan 16 2009 07:56am
Quote (Nevereon @ Fri, Jan 16 2009, 07:24am)
Yeah :/ I know! I've still been shooting just not uploading >_<" My goddam wireless drivers decided to fail on me and by the time I was able to spend time actually fixing the problem I mistakenly ripped out my wifi antenna sleep.gif" Now I sit in another room near an internet outlet so I can still hook up with a cable, once I get over the loss of my antenna and decide to spend 40dollars on a new one I'll be back in my room =_=" Anyways, point being I made this REALLY annoying to change computer setup in my room awhile back so I haven't been arsed to get the camera cord in the new room. Ontop of this I no longer have photoshop and I'm just to lazy to redownload it so I can actually convert my .raws sad.gif The reason I lost PS was because I changed OP to windows7 a couple weeks ago >__<" I'm also simultaneously swamped with school leaving short time for me to actually complete any of these tasks... xD I'll hopefully get my lazy butt to do it soon sad.gif


awww lol I would never use wireless internet connections course I still believe its unreliable and not very safe so right now I have a 10 meter cable hanging in the air from my living room where the cable plug is to my bedroom where my computer is located laugh.gif I still don't know what windows7 is ohmy.gif and I don't think I want to change to a new OS anytime soon course XP is good enough for me for now even though I know it's probably not as stable as VISTA. Anyway lol I am looking forward to see your pictures. oh why don't you shoot in jpg instead its so much easier lol Personally I am too impatient and too lazy to shoot in RAW mainly because I hate to spend a lot of time post processing my pictures tongue.gif
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Jan 16 2009 09:57am
Quote (Futurama @ Fri, 16 Jan 2009, 14:56)
awww lol I would never use wireless internet connections course I still believe its unreliable and not very safe so right now I have a 10 meter cable hanging in the air from my living room where the cable plug is to my bedroom where my computer is located laugh.gif  I still don't know what windows7 is ohmy.gif and I don't think I want to change to a new OS anytime soon course XP is good enough for me for now even though I know it's probably not as stable as VISTA. Anyway lol I am looking forward to see your pictures. oh why don't you shoot in jpg instead its so much easier lol Personally I am too impatient and too lazy to shoot in RAW mainly because I hate to spend a lot of time post processing my pictures tongue.gif


lols. I prefer it ;p Wow I wrote OP instead of OS haha xD XP is definately more stable than vista ;b Hell, even windows7 is more stable and it's a beta. Windows 7 is microsoft's newest operating system which will probably be released in a year or two ;p
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Jan 16 2009 10:01am
Quote (Nevereon @ Fri, Jan 16 2009, 09:57am)
lols. I prefer it ;p Wow I wrote OP instead of OS haha xD XP is definately more stable than vista ;b Hell, even windows7 is more stable and it's a beta. Windows 7 is microsoft's newest operating system which will probably be released in a year or two ;p


ohmy.gif you are using an OS that has not been released yet?? tongue.gif Can you post some screenshot and show me what it looks like? happy.gif
haha I didn't know that Vista sucks that much laugh.gif

This post was edited by Futurama on Jan 16 2009 10:01am
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Jan 16 2009 10:09am
Quote (Futurama @ Fri, 16 Jan 2009, 17:01)
ohmy.gif you are using an OS that has not been released yet?? tongue.gif Can you post some screenshot and show me what it looks like? happy.gif
haha I didn't know that Vista sucks that much laugh.gif


Yeah. Well imo it does. (And yes, that comes from actually trying it out myself for a few months rather than "going with the flow" and agreeing with what others say about it. I REALLY tried to like it) Basically windows7 looks identical to vista. The only difference is the taskbar being slightly different, a few new functions, better memory handling (about the same as xp) and no annoying UAC smile.gif

screen: (Yeah, stolen from wiki xD I'm too lazy to upload mine to photobucket ;p)
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Jan 16 2009 10:16am
Quote (Nevereon @ Fri, Jan 16 2009, 05:09pm)
Yeah. Well imo it does. (And yes, that comes from actually trying it out myself for a few months rather than "going with the flow" and agreeing with what others say about it. I REALLY tried to like it) Basically windows7 looks identical to vista. The only difference is the taskbar being slightly different, a few new functions, better memory handling (about the same as xp) and no annoying UAC smile.gif

screen: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0c/Windows_7_build_7000.png (Yeah, stolen from wiki xD I'm too lazy to upload mine to photobucket ;p)


there is not a problem with windows vista and in fact windows xp seriously underestimated its memory usage in task manager. If you really think windows vista is bad just disable all the pretty functions and graphics and ur performance will go up massively
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Jan 16 2009 10:38am
Quote (doyleo @ Fri, 16 Jan 2009, 17:16)
there is not a problem with windows vista and in fact windows xp seriously underestimated its memory usage in task manager. If you really think windows vista is bad just disable all the pretty functions and graphics and ur performance will go up massively


From experience I can say there seriously is. I allways run my systems at the bare minimum, meaning no gfx, animations, sounds or background services. Even after spending hours modding the hell out of my vista it still drained ~750mb ram in idle which is ridiculous. If it weren't for my dependency on running executable files I'd have switched to linux in no time. My friend's debian laptop pulls something like 15mb at idle and seriously, that's what a system should be. Microsoft might have ran the show before by first commercially introducing the computer but they gotta face it that they just can't cut it anymore. Even though I'm happy with windows7 in consideration to what a large and wealthy company microsoft is it's a peice of shit. What they need to do is re-write a kernal from the ground and invent some new features that actually give a cutting edge to the sleek, nifty macs or the powercrunching linux comps. Tbh unless they do so soon I really in vison them getting run off the market within a decade or so. Here's a genuine example: Windows7 currently supports 16gb ram (I think, if not lower, their 64bit OS naturally supports more) whilst macs have for many many years supported 128gb ram. Yeah, okay it's not necessary to have 128gb or even 16gb ram but at the rate ram prices are going now in a near future it's gonna be dumb not to have that much. I can get a 2gb ram stick for about 30USD to this day while exactly a year ago I payed 80USD for my 2gb which was the cheapest on the market at the time. What I'm trying to say in general is that microsoft hasnt prepared for the future in the same way mac and linux have. The only reason people still use windows is because of it's commercial influence and norm of our society. The iront of the whole "which OS to choose" thing is that the majority of us choose the most unstable, crash-prone os to work on. Sadly, we are left a very slim choice.

P.S Enjoy my essay!

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Jan 16 2009 11:10am
Quote (Nevereon @ Fri, Jan 16 2009, 05:38pm)
From experience I can say there seriously is. I allways run my systems at the bare minimum, meaning no gfx, animations, sounds or background services. Even after spending hours modding the hell out of my vista it still drained ~750mb ram in idle which is ridiculous. If it weren't for my dependency on running executable files I'd have switched to linux in no time. My friend's debian laptop pulls something like 15mb at idle and seriously, that's what a system should be. Microsoft might have ran the show before by first commercially introducing the computer but they gotta face it that they just can't cut it anymore. Even though I'm happy with windows7 in consideration to what a large and wealthy company microsoft is it's a peice of shit. What they need to do is re-write a kernal from the ground and invent some new features that actually give a cutting edge to the sleek, nifty macs or the powercrunching linux comps. Tbh unless they do so soon I really in vison them getting run off the market within a decade or so. Here's a genuine example: Windows7 currently supports 16gb ram (I think, if not lower, their 64bit OS naturally supports more) whilst macs have for many many years supported 128gb ram. Yeah, okay it's not necessary to have 128gb or even 16gb ram but at the rate ram prices are going now in a near future it's gonna be dumb not to have that much. I can get a 2gb ram stick for about 30USD to this day while exactly a year ago I payed 80USD for my 2gb which was the cheapest on the market at the time. What I'm trying to say in general is that microsoft hasnt prepared for the future in the same way mac and linux have. The only reason people still use windows is because of it's commercial influence and norm of our society. The iront of the whole "which OS to choose" thing is that the majority of us choose the most unstable, crash-prone os to work on. Sadly, we are left a very slim choice.

P.S Enjoy my essay!


increasing ur virtual memory size helps - i think the default is 2gb but 6-8gb is plenty. So what if it takes up loads of ram when idle? when you are playing a game or somthing that requires loads of ram it will use much more of the ram for the game. at idle it is common to take about 50% of physical memory (with all the appearance stuff active) but after doing somthing that is ram thirsty the requirement for RAM for other things but the application go down. windows xp says that its using a really low amount of ram but its using just a little less than vista, im not sure about linux. since windows computers are so much cheaper than macs, and can be much more custom built thats why the majority pick windows.

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Jan 16 2009 12:13pm
Quote (doyleo @ Fri, 16 Jan 2009, 18:10)
increasing ur virtual memory size helps - i think the default is 2gb but 6-8gb is plenty. So what if it takes up loads of ram when idle? when you are playing a game or somthing that requires loads of ram it will use much more of the ram for the game. at idle it is common to take about 50% of physical memory (with all the appearance stuff active) but after doing somthing that is ram thirsty the requirement for RAM for other things but the application go down. windows xp says that its using a really low amount of ram but its using just a little less than vista, im not sure about linux. since windows computers are so much cheaper than macs, and can be much more custom built thats why the majority pick windows.

sorry for ot tongue.gif


That's a lie. It's just as easy to custom build a mac as a pc. You can trust me on that as I've done both several times ;p There is no default. About a year ago 512mb was the user standard and now it's about 2gb. 6-8 is useless you do realize this right? Since microsuck sucks so bad their 32-bit OS's can only handle 3.5gb even if they display that more is active. As far as the memory issue I'm sorry but you are wrong there aswell ;p Try clocking the same spec computer freshly installed without any progs on both OS'S. Xp uses much less (although still friggin' unnessisary much!). And seriously, 50% mem idle is ridiculous. Especially when we are talking at such high numbers. The simple reason behind windows using so much ram is that it basically never unload the memory (which also is the reason it's so damn vulnerable compared to other OS's). Anyways, all this talk of os stuff has got me in the computer-modding mood. I'm off now to solder on some better leds on my comp (the ones I recently bought sucked sad.gif), reinstall xp and fix my wireless! biggrin.gif *sparetime*
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