I think you missed one of my posts. I was looking for a camera that will take higher quality photos which is why i am not buying a 20 dollar camera from walmart.

then get a dslr if u want quality, 400d is great, 1000d is bit newer and has bigger lcd, but they took 2 focus points away from it for example, so i would pick the 400d instead. Point and shoots can take good quality pics in perfect conditions, but if there is even little bit darker(even normal room light) they get crappy images without flash and flash on them makes the images look like shit.

This post was edited by Antichrist- on Nov 30 2008 04:03pm

Alright, about 75% of the pictures i will be taking will be indoors with obviously shitty light conditions. So i will look more into the 400D then. Roughly how hard is it to take a decent photo with something like the 400D whenever you've never really messed with cameras before? Because i dont want to buy this and then get frustrated with it and sell it again.

well indoors light is really small compared to sun light, you will need to use high sensitivity indoors even with 400d and it will make some noise, but its not nearly as much as with point and shoots. If you like to take portrait shots i would suggest you get 50mm f-1.8 lens, its only about 100 dollars, but there is no zoom and 50mm shows things bit too close for indoors on other than portraits. f-1.8 lets much more light into the camera(so you can use lower iso and get less noise) than what that f-3.5(on wide end)-5.6((or what ever it was)with max zoom) on the kit lens, allso the image quality is way better on the 50 1.8 than kit lens. Small f-number allso makes nice background blur for portraits. There is allso 28mm 2.8 lens, it costs bit more and doesent let that much light in than 50 1.8, but its bit better indoors for its focal lenght. 28mm is kind of the normal focal lenght, not wide angle and not too much. Or you can get this kind of things ( http://www.vistek.ca/store/CameraMountedFlash/235344/stofen-omf1-omni-flip-for-dslr-w-popup-flash.aspx ) for the flash so you can get better results from the pop up flash, it makes the flash more spread around and doesent make so hard shadows and lets you shoot indoors even with the kit lens with lowest sensitivity. But i suggest that 50 1.8 for enyone who wants to get good lens besides the kit lens and doesent want to pay much for it, its the cheapest canon lens, its made like a little plastic piece of shit, but the image quality in it is really good compared to the price, since its easy to make a fixed focal lenght lens at 50mm even with f-1.8.

This post was edited by Antichrist- on Nov 30 2008 04:30pm

Alright so it looks like i can get the Canon and decent lens for what i am wanting to spend. Thank you again guys. I may post up some pictures here whenever i feel like i am starting to figure out the camera.