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Dec 30 2012 04:49pm
Quote (Xandriia @ Dec 30 2012 01:48am)
That was one of the only things that put me off, the size. 3 pounds compared to one, not to mention the length. I mean, I guess I could keep my 50 on it all the time unless I was doing a shoot or something..ultimately I did want a nicer lens even for snapshots though. At 1.8 its pretty gross indoors, unless I have some seriously optimal lighting, which I pretty much never do if its a snapshot.

I could see it being a pain, but such a badass pain..Ill admit I love how it looks too, lol. Im dying to own a white lens.

I looked into it and to rent both would be around $100 for three days..I swear photography must be the priciest profession in the world.


Yeah, exactly, couldn't have said it better yourself :lol:

Perhaps the 100 bucks would be good to have you really decide what you want, I spose it still is a bit on the expensive side though, for renting!

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Dec 31 2012 03:56am
I guess if you really need a white lens.. i mean a portrait lens ( ;) ) get the 70-200 EF II 2.8 IS

24-70 is slow considering prime focal lengths will get you two stops faster and will create a different picture. Plus, if you like bokeh, you won't like this.

24/50/85 are all I basically use now, the 70-200 only gets dusted off when I'm in a studio.

Rent or buy the new Sigma 35 f1.4.. it's supposed to be amazing, better than the Canon L. That would be a great portrait lens for kids.

Honestly, zooms make you lazy lol

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Dec 31 2012 06:41am
I don't agree with fixed lenses when it comes to kids... especially outside a studio!
Kids move, and they move a LOT! They run towards you, tight and left... the 70-200 you have to be far and it's heavy (my god is it heavy when you want to use it for a long time). Kids don't like to be far off their mom.
With a fixed lens, you have to move to frame your subject. I have tried with the 85 1.8 and it is very annoying.
The 24-70 f:2.8 is not slow at all! I use it for my photoshoots with people and their horse, and it is also great with horses running and bucking around.
You can get great bokeh with the 24-70 also (hell, you can get bokeh with a cheap 50 mm)
But renting is the best option before investing such a big amount!
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Dec 31 2012 07:13am
Check my album on falconry on FB, they were all taken with the 24-70 ;)
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Dec 31 2012 07:26pm
Quote (lithfkn @ Dec 31 2012 03:56am)
I guess if you really need a white lens.. i mean a portrait lens ( ;) ) get the 70-200 EF II 2.8 IS

24-70 is slow considering prime focal lengths will get you two stops faster and will create a different picture. Plus, if you like bokeh, you won't like this.

24/50/85 are all I basically use now, the 70-200 only gets dusted off when I'm in a studio.

Rent or buy the new Sigma 35 f1.4.. it's supposed to be amazing, better than the Canon L. That would be a great portrait lens for kids.

Honestly, zooms make you lazy lol


:lol:

I have heard a lot of good things about the 35..but I feel like, I already have a 50, Id honestly like to have a zoom. Also it might make it easier for me to set up a natural light studio indoors, Ive heard its a wonderful inside lens.

How do they make you lazy though?

Quote (MotherOfTwo @ Dec 31 2012 06:41am)
I don't agree with fixed lenses when it comes to kids... especially outside a studio!
Kids move, and they move a LOT! They run towards you, tight and left... the 70-200 you have to be far and it's heavy (my god is it heavy when you want to use it for a long time). Kids don't like to be far off their mom.
With a fixed lens, you have to move to frame your subject. I have tried with the 85 1.8 and it is very annoying.
The 24-70 f:2.8 is not slow at all! I use it for my photoshoots with people and their horse, and it is also great with horses running and bucking around.
You can get great bokeh with the 24-70 also (hell, you can get bokeh with a cheap 50 mm)
But renting is the best option before investing such a big amount!


Quote (MotherOfTwo @ Dec 31 2012 07:13am)
Check my album on falconry on FB, they were all taken with the 24-70 ;)


I usually get pretty far back anyway, that way I have room to crop how I like if need be. Also I move around a ton, because used to, I would get a bunch of the same picture at the same angle. So after that was brought to my attention I make sure I move around a lot, getting different angles in. I can always seem to make kids comfortable! Even the crying ones, haha. Guess thats why I love family photography, its where Im most at ease and its easy for me to put them at ease. I have a photographer friend that primarily uses the 85 1.8 and she takes amazing photos...but not the kind of photos Im looking to take. I like the sharpness but thats about it. I have seen that you can get lovely bokeh from the 24-70 (your bird shots were great!) but I think I prefer the bokeh from the 70-200. After looking at a lot of pictures and reading through a bunch of "whats the best Canon portrait lens" threads, I really feel like Im leaning towards the 70-200. The pictures Ive seen with the 24-70 are very nice, but as with the 85mm, not quite the shots Im looking for. But every photo I see with the 70-200, Im just kind of dazzled by. To have such tack sharp photos with such amazing bokeh to boot...I want :lol:
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Dec 31 2012 09:48pm
Oh and, as Ive said before Im pretty damn happy with my 50. I dont know if that will go away over time, but for now its still a great lens to me. I took this earlier, I think it was at 2.2, pretty good bokeh imo.

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Jan 1 2013 12:50am
I'm thinking about picking up a 50 1.4. I need a shorter zoom but I don't really use wides.
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Quote (Zomb @ Jan 1 2013 12:50am)
I'm thinking about picking up a 50 1.4. I need a shorter zoom but I don't really use wides.


I havent heard much of anything good about the 1.4. Id go 1.2 or stick with the 1.8.
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Jan 1 2013 06:54am
Quote (MotherOfTwo @ Dec 31 2012 10:41pm)
I don't agree with fixed lenses when it comes to kids... especially outside a studio!
Kids move, and they move a LOT! They run towards you, tight and left... the 70-200 you have to be far and it's heavy (my god is it heavy when you want to use it for a long time). Kids don't like to be far off their mom.
With a fixed lens, you have to move to frame your subject. I have tried with the 85 1.8 and it is very annoying.
The 24-70 f:2.8 is not slow at all! I use it for my photoshoots with people and their horse, and it is also great with horses running and bucking around.
You can get great bokeh with the 24-70 also (hell, you can get bokeh with a cheap 50 mm)
But renting is the best option before investing such a big amount!


Agree to disagree? So many people use primes for photographing kids and all types of moving subjects. Hell, I've shot weddings using just a 24/50/85 and no zooms.

I find the perspective much easier to control and to frame with a fixed focal length. Being forced to move and compose with your feet gives images a totally different feel, it's hard to explain I guess :/

Well, the 2.8 is 2 stops slower compared to a 24/35/50 1.4 lens. Shooting a subject at ~1.4 compared to ~2.8 will yield very different results.

Quote (Xandriia @ Jan 1 2013 11:26am)
:lol:

I have heard a lot of good things about the 35..but I feel like, I already have a 50, Id honestly like to have a zoom. Also it might make it easier for me to set up a natural light studio indoors, Ive heard its a wonderful inside lens.

How do they make you lazy though?


35 and 50 is a big difference. Rent one and check it out for yourself.

Seriously, once you start using primes more, you learn their compression and perspectives, you know how far and close to stand etc It's seriously a matter of moving your feet a meter or two. It's not like you have to wear running shoes when shooting primes.



Quote (Xandriia @ Jan 1 2013 05:27pm)
I havent heard much of anything good about the 1.4. Id go 1.2 or stick with the 1.8.


The 50 1.4 is fine if you can get a good copy. I had my dramas with it but like i wrote in a different thread, i was lucky that they let me test 5 or 6 in store lol

Don't get a 1.2! Canon is rumored to be producing an 50L EF II 1.2

This post was edited by lithfkn on Jan 1 2013 06:55am
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I've never used the 1.4 wide open. I used it for a day shooting in a studio with lighting at f/8 and f/9 and I fucking looooooved it. But of course I'd be buying it for the capabilities of making a mouth watering bokeh.
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