Quote (Antichrist- @ Jul 6 2013 05:50pm)
I think the "better start with crop sensor" stuff is just some leftover from the ancient times when full frame dslrs were so expensive that beginner shouldnt get them. Nowadays with so cheap 5d mkI and 1ds and them being almost on the same level on handling noise and even better in some refards, there is no reason why in my opinion a beginner shouldnt get full frame as first dslr, i think its actually better to start with real cameras. But there are some mistakes that people might do more easier with full frame than with crop sensor camera, when using full frame a lens for example 85mm 1.8 would give far too little focused area for most of the close shots and one big newbie mistake is to go into "yay meni bokeh" mode and make awful pictures with too thin depth of field in all shots. So full frame maybe requires more awareness on what is focused and what is not, while crop sensor cameras doesent give so extremely small depth of field, so you kinda have to resist the urge for bokeh more.
agreed, a 5di and 50mm 1.8 is a cheap starting setup, and is hard to massively improve it!
A newer body / 50 1.4 wouldn't affect IQ at low iso's much at all.....