Hey there. I tried to get a softer light this time because I use hard light sooooo often. So that was on purpose. Also, in my experience, it looks awkward shooting head and upper body shots from such a low angle. Altough I was going down abit most of the time, I think going even lower wouldnt have had a positive effect in that case. Might be wrong. The light characteristics would have changed and I would have been be shooting right into her nose.

About the fat thing........ She´s like 5,7ft tall and weighs around 110 pounds. She´s really slim. I have absolutely nothing against skinny models, I actually like them aswell, as long as they look healthy. But I´m not the one who´s liquifying away another 20 pounds if its not necessary. My choice of models and the editing usually represents how I feel an almost perfect woman should look like. I´m not a fan of the industry standard right now. They are creating an illusion which young girls are trying to achieve for themselves, because they are not aware of or dont want to see the manipulation. Then again, I´m not really trying to go against that standard per se, I´m just trying not to do something that I dont like just because the market dictates it. Of course, that only applies to my own free work. Obviously, when I´m doing a job, my own preferences are secondary.

Thanks for the input, we shall discuss it more.

Mate, hard light is beautiful.. especially when balanced with soft fill.. mmm

By shooting up I don't mean her towering over you, just a lower perspective and obviously light angle is adjusted to make up for it.

haha I think fat may of been too critical.. maybe a little puppy fat? Not so much her body, that's okay, mainly around her face and neck, it needs shaping, which should be done via light but liquify is great for merely straightening jawlines and fixing cheek structure.

You may have reservations about slimming or fixing girls who may be ideal to you but everything needs to be oddly perfect in fashion. I use the term oddly because I don't mean flawless. There are things that obviously need to be fixed then there is overboard.

Young girls who have issues like that won't be fashion models. They will be doing catalogues for chain stores or other modeling gigs. It's a simple fact. I've worked with a lot of professional models and they all seem pretty at peace with the fact things will be changed or altered, it's just part of it. Models just simply aren't normal girls (in terms of shape)

Anyway, I hope I wasn't too critical mate

to be fair, its not because shes chubby, its because the harsh lighting under her jaw, and you need to direct her into keeping her jaw forward or up or extend neck, though the first one is probably more because of the editing.
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also not a fan of shooting from below for cropped/portrait shots

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when i shoot portraits i always use strobes w/ softboxes, or a white umbrella.
it just looks better to me. >.<


the last one in the first post is still my favorite, i just dont like the expression.

This post was edited by LION on Jun 3 2013 06:47am

Many fashion images these days are desaturated and/or cross colored. Split hue, etc. It's a fashion that comes and goes and is here right now for some.

You'd be surprised at how much fashion is shot at a lower angle shooting up also just as surprised at how much is shot with key hard light. Hard light = more contrast/detail/sharpness

I think that applies mostly to full body shots, not so much to close ups and head portraits. and yeah, I like hard light, I just dont want to use it every time. Besides, the third collage was actually done with a silver para umbrella, which gave me quite a hard and contrasty light.

Try shooting with an open reflector or silver lined beauty dish, that shit is hard as hell.

haha and when i mean shooting up i mean something like this below. It's subtle, but enough for the perspective.

I like the third pic, a lot for some reason.

You could bump the exposure up a little.



your kidding me, right?

I wouldn't say fat at all but her face is too "plump" to be a fashion model

Not at all.



Pretty much this.

I've worked with some really thin girls (not sickly thin or anything) and at first it's a little distracting but that's how it is.