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Aug 16 2011 01:40pm
Quote (onepagememory @ Aug 16 2011 11:27am)
Jelly coz of innacurate color rendition, costly processing, and the limits imposed by it.

If you think any of these aregood things, you need to have children / stop leeching from parents.


i hate kids and i don't leech from my parents, theyre poor
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Aug 16 2011 02:36pm
Quote (onepagememory @ Aug 16 2011 10:27am)
Jelly coz of innacurate color rendition, costly processing, and the limits imposed by it.

If you think any of these aregood things, you need to have children / stop leeching from parents.


I think theyre good things, and you know I have kids and have a sugar daddy :lol:

I just ordered batteries for my Nikon N70, cant wait to try out this 4 years expired b&w film.

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Aug 16 2011 02:41pm
Quote (wezman @ Aug 16 2011 10:22am)
Film is more future proof than any digital format images, Scanning technology will always develop and be backwards compatable - film resolutions will only improve, however images stored digital will be lost after estimated 10 years from any hard drive (as thats their average life) and will always have a pixel restraint. Also the file formats will be different in the future and cause compatability issues. film will also always be their in its highest available quality. as soon as you convert from raw you lose info.

Anything filmed digital can never be improved quality wise. however they are producing blue ray quality versions of films from the 70's 80's 90's because of the fact they were filmed on high quality film with proves the value of film.


Expensive processing can be erased by self processing. black and white is easy to develop and color rolls can be done from certain places from as litle a 99p per roll.

Film will also allow you a larger format at a fraction of th cost - improving upon IQ and higher resolutions!

You can also get tiny bodies Like contax rangefinders, leica M's, and others - that opticaly are better than any digital SLR and cheaper!

Any body serious about Photography (and i don't mean professionally - as the only option is Digital) film is the way to go.




Edit:
I would go for the 7d if you class yourself as a photographer Or either of the others if you would call yourself a film maker.


You did not refute any of my arguments lol. We weren't starting a 'why film is good' thread. GL with 99 cent processing.

Quote (Xandriia @ Aug 16 2011 01:36pm)
I think theyre good things, and you know I have kids and have a sugar daddy :lol:

I just ordered batteries for my Nikon N70, cant wait to try out this 4 years expired b&w film.

inb4rage


my comment for you is reserved.

This post was edited by onepagememory on Aug 16 2011 02:42pm
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Aug 18 2011 01:05am
Quote (wezman @ 16 Aug 2011 21:22)
Film is more future proof than any digital format images, Scanning technology will always develop and be backwards compatable - film resolutions will only improve, however images stored digital will be lost after estimated 10 years from any hard drive (as thats their average life) and will always have a pixel restraint. Also the file formats will be different in the future and cause compatability issues. film will also always be their in its highest available quality. as soon as you convert from raw you lose info.

Anything filmed digital can never be improved quality wise. however they are producing blue ray quality versions of films from the 70's 80's 90's because of the fact they were filmed on high quality film with proves the value of film.


Expensive processing can be erased by self processing. black and white is easy to develop and color rolls can be done from certain places from as litle a 99p per roll.

Film will also allow you a larger format at a fraction of th cost - improving upon IQ and higher resolutions!

You can also get tiny bodies Like contax rangefinders, leica M's, and others - that opticaly are better than any digital SLR and cheaper!

Any body serious about Photography (and i don't mean professionally - as the only option is Digital) film is the way to go.




Edit:
I would go for the 7d if you class yourself as a photographer Or either of the others if you would call yourself a film maker.


film does degrade over time, and even faster if not stored correctly, i would love to see you storing 10years worth of film photos correctly, you gonna need a rather large amount of space
how much space does that take up digitally? almost nothing!!!
yeah film quality / scans will constantly improve over time but:
1 - more and more consumables for film are being taken off the self due to lack of sales, this is only going to get worse till there is almost nothing available, this will spread to scanners as well where you will eventually only have a very limited selection at exorbitant prices
2 - same with labs, they are getting more scarce
3 - even the available pixels now days are overkill and it wont take long for 50MP to be the norm, what would we ever need to print that would require more?
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Aug 18 2011 08:10am
Quote (jayandnix @ Aug 18 2011 12:05am)
film does degrade over time, and even faster if not stored correctly, i would love to see you storing 10years worth of film photos correctly, you gonna need a rather large amount of space
how much space does that take up digitally? almost nothing!!!
yeah film quality / scans will constantly improve over time but:
1 - more and more consumables for film are being taken off the self due to lack of sales, this is only going to get worse till there is almost nothing available, this will spread to scanners as well where you will eventually only have a very limited selection at exorbitant prices
2 - same with labs, they are getting more scarce
3 - even the available pixels now days are overkill and it wont take long for 50MP to be the norm, what would we ever need to print that would require more?


MP also allows for croppage. Even if storage would be a bitch, I'd take 50 mp over 21 mp anyday.
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Aug 18 2011 08:48am
Quote (onepagememory @ 18 Aug 2011 18:10)
MP also allows for croppage. Even if storage would be a bitch, I'd take 50 mp over 21 mp anyday.


well that is basically what i said, soon we will all be using 50MP camera's and can cropped till our hearts content
obviously we always want / would like more / bigger / better
but its not really needed
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Aug 18 2011 12:45pm
7D = DSLR = PHOTOGRAPHY.

Ever seen the single photos a camcorder produces?

Photo = Photo
video = Video

Stick with something fully dedicated to video, especially if you already have a semi pro dslr.

Get the A1s. I promise you that you will get FAR better results from it VS the 7D.

Or sell goods, make money, and buy a RED.
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Aug 18 2011 05:46pm
Quote (TheBlackRose66 @ Aug 18 2011 11:45am)
7D = DSLR = PHOTOGRAPHY.

Ever seen the single photos a camcorder produces?

Photo = Photo
video = Video

Stick with something fully dedicated to video, especially if you already have a semi pro dslr.

Get the A1s. I promise you that you will get FAR better results from it VS the 7D.

Or sell goods, make money, and buy aRED.


lol? Are you kidding me? Have you not tried the video function of the 7D?
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Aug 18 2011 08:23pm
Video on the 7d is amazing
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Aug 19 2011 10:50am
Quote (lithfkn @ Aug 19 2011 02:23am)
Video on the 7d is amazing



It really is. TokenWhite I know many many many many people who are in university for Media arts (or something along those longs) and they are using the 7D quality of video is absolutely gorgeous and i garuntee you will not be disappointed.
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