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Dec 13 2009 03:35pm
I think you should get D90 because it's quite a bit more advanced than XSI. It has much better LCD screen, better high ISO performance, a top LCD screen, better AF, faster continuous shooting, better viewfinder etc etc etc
so you get the picture here. I have had a XSI for a few months and I liked it only because it's smaller size and lighter weight other than that it's totally inferior to those larger Canon and Nikon cameras.

BUT if you choose Nikon you have to know that Nikon has more expensive professional lenses than Canon so you may will find yourself having to save more to get what you want in the future and I think that's the only disadvantage D90 has against XSI.

Oh and about EOS 50D, if you like to shoot in low light I would suggest you should avoid that camera because it's high ISO performance sucks more than Monica Lewinsky :S but it only cost like 1100 CAD in Canada, plus lens of course
Anyway whichever you will get in the end I am sure you will be amazed by the vast improvement in image quality compared to your current camera.

This post was edited by Futurama on Dec 13 2009 03:36pm
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I think you should get D90 because it's quite a bit more advanced than XSI. It has much better LCD screen, better high ISO performance, a top LCD screen, better AF, faster continuous shooting, better viewfinder etc etc etc
so you get the picture here. I have had a XSI for a few months and I liked it only because it's smaller size and lighter weight other than that it's totally inferior to those larger Canon and Nikon cameras.

BUT if you choose Nikon you have to know that Nikon has more expensive professional lenses than Canon so you may will find yourself having to save more to get what you want in the future and I think that's the only disadvantage D90 has against XSI.

Oh and about EOS 50D, if you like to shoot in low light I would suggest you should avoid that camera because it's high ISO performance sucks more than Monica Lewinsky :S but it only cost like 1100 CAD in Canada, plus lens of course
Anyway whichever you will get in the end I am sure you will be amazed by the vast improvement in image quality compared to your current camera.


oh what you said about EOS 50D surprises me, I am planning to buy one. Or should I chose another one?
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oh what you said about EOS 50D surprises me, I am planning to buy one. Or should I chose another one?


Well if money isn't a big issue for you I think you should totally get the new 7D :)
at least that's what I am currently trying to save for (or maybe a 5Dmk2 depends on how much I will work in the next month lol)

You should read some reviews on the 50D before you decide if you want to get it or not.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-50D-Digital-SLR-Camera-Review.aspx

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos50d/page31.asp

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As sensor density increases, so too does high ISO noise - unless improvements in the sensor and subsequent image processing are made. We have been seeing these improvements as the DSLR lines mature. What the above crops show - and what I've been seeing, is that the Canon EOS 50D has slightly more noise than the 40D at identical high ISO settings. Only a slight gain in noise from a sensor with 50% more pixels is still quite an accomplishment in my opinion.


and this applies to the new 7D as well:
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As pixel density increases, lens aberrations are magnified and more readily apparent at a 100% viewing size. Thus, higher quality optics are required to make optimal use of each pixel. This is another blow to the slow lenses as they are often of a lower optical quality as well. Of course, if necessary, you can always reduce the size of the 50D pics to get the same or better quality images that a lower resolution body delivers from a lower quality lens or narrow aperture setting.


This post was edited by Futurama on Dec 13 2009 03:56pm
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Dec 13 2009 04:06pm
The high ISO performance makes me want to choose the Nikon more than the Canon camera. My camera I really dislike the ISO on it. 1600 is the most I can go, and when using 1600 most times, I get lots of noise in my pictures. So in all, I don't even use ISO 1600 on my camera! Any one of those, however, is great for a beginner! If it's not a whole lot more money, go for it! :)

Oh and about jumping on the sales items... it really depends. I've only bought one thing for my camera that was on sale, but it was something I wanted (it was a camera lens) and happened to be at the right place at the right time and I bought it on sale! Sometimes they like to put sales on right before Christmas, too. And sometimes they do a sale so you buy theirs!

@futurama ... you buy way to many camera bodies. Lol. Why don't ya spend more money on your lenses rather than a better camera body? :huh:

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Since nobody mentioned it yet: The kit lens for nikon is better, just another bonus for choosing nikon imo :P
The d90 is a great choice, I wish I''d have been a bit more ice cold when choosing a dslr. I'm fine with d3000 though :P
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The high ISO performance makes me want to choose the Nikon more than the Canon camera. My camera I really dislike the ISO on it. 1600 is the most I can go, and when using 1600 most times, I get lots of noise in my pictures. So in all, I don't even use ISO 1600 on my camera! Any one of those, however, is great for a beginner! If it's not a whole lot more money, go for it! :)

Oh and about jumping on the sales items... it really depends. I've only bought one thing for my camera that was on sale, but it was something I wanted (it was a camera lens) and happened to be at the right place at the right time and I bought it on sale! Sometimes they like to put sales on right before Christmas, too. And sometimes they do a sale so you buy theirs!

@futurama ... you buy way to many camera bodies. Lol. Why don't ya spend more money on your lenses rather than a better camera body? :huh:


Well there are currently two affordable (still 2000-3000 bucks) Canon cameras that have awesome high ISO performance, the 7D and 5Dmk2
but Nikon D700 and D3 are still better in that area though 5Dmk2 is known for it's image quality that is also why it's probably the most used camera by studio and wedding photographers at least that's what I have heard.

Well the ONLY reason why I am considering buying a new camera is because they have having this amazing sale on both 7D and 5Dmk2 now. TheCameraStore is selling them for 1850 and 2900CAD respectively :o
my problem is that I still dont know if i will be able to save that much money up until the sale ends at 31st of December if not I will just get a lens I wanted :D

EDIT: another reason why I want either of those two camera is their superior high ISO performance compared to my 40D which produces quite noisy images at ISO 1600, the same problem as you have with your XTI :(

This post was edited by Futurama on Dec 13 2009 07:16pm
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Dec 13 2009 07:56pm
dont forget to consider your future lens purchases...
canon has a great L-series which is cheaper than the running nikon telephoto lenses.
I kicked myself when i found that a decent nikon 70-200mm/f2.8 will cost 1800$ :(
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Dec 13 2009 08:33pm
Quote (Academic @ Dec 13 2009 07:56pm)
dont forget to consider your future lens purchases...
canon has a great L-series which is cheaper than the running nikon telephoto lenses.
I kicked myself when i found that a decent nikon 70-200mm/f2.8 will cost 1800$ :(


That's the main reason why I chose my Canon :( Silly Nikon.

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Well there are currently two affordable (still 2000-3000 bucks) Canon cameras that have awesome high ISO performance, the 7D and 5Dmk2
but Nikon D700 and D3 are still better in that area though 5Dmk2 is known for it's image quality that is also why it's probably the most used camera by studio and wedding photographers at least that's what I have heard.

Well the ONLY reason why I am considering buying a new camera is because they have having this amazing sale on both 7D and 5Dmk2 now. TheCameraStore is selling them for 1850 and 2900CAD respectively :o
my problem is that I still dont know if i will be able to save that much money up until the sale ends at 31st of December if not I will just get a lens I wanted :D

EDIT: another reason why I want either of those two camera is their superior high ISO performance compared to my 40D which produces quite noisy images at ISO 1600, the same problem as you have with your XTI :(


Yeah, that's the ONLY thing I do not like about my XTI. But I figure by getting better lenses I won't even need to use that high of an ISO. I will never be able to afford one of those higher end cameras, so I just concentrate on the lenses rather than the body... what can ya do. Sometimes using that ISO isn't too too bad, but it's very frustrating, especially when you take dark photos. One day I might just use that ISO to make it all grainy to get some kind of effect; that's about all I can see me using that for. Kind of sucks, but oh well.
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Quote (Academic @ Dec 14 2009 03:56am)
dont forget to consider your future lens purchases...
canon has a great L-series which is cheaper than the running nikon telephoto lenses.
I kicked myself when i found that a decent nikon 70-200mm/f2.8 will cost 1800$ :(


l-series arent so cheap either!
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That's the main reason why I chose my Canon :( Silly Nikon.



Yeah, that's the ONLY thing I do not like about my XTI. But I figure by getting better lenses I won't even need to use that high of an ISO. I will never be able to afford one of those higher end cameras, so I just concentrate on the lenses rather than the body... what can ya do. Sometimes using that ISO isn't too too bad, but it's very frustrating, especially when you take dark photos. One day I might just use that ISO to make it all grainy to get some kind of effect; that's about all I can see me using that for. Kind of sucks, but oh well.


hmm well 1850+ tax for a 7D isn't that bad so I think your belief that you will never be able to afford a higher end camera is a bit exaggerated and pessimistic :p
besides some of the higher end Canon L lenses cost almost as much or more. My ef 24-70 f2.8L is only a few hundred cheaper than a 7D so if you want to invest in good lenses you will need to save at least 1500 which is doable if you dont waste your hard earned money too much like I have been doing lately on food hahaha Oh lord i think I spent like 500 bucks in the past four weeks on food only and me and my coworkers and friends regularly order or eat out :D but I guess having fun cost a lot of money too :S
Anyway! I guess if you really don't want to upgrade your camera body you could get some of those really fast lenses like 50mm f1.2L but then again as I said it would cost you almost as much as a new camera body.


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l-series arent so cheap either!


well mrs Grinch I believe he meant that Canon L lenses are relatively cheaper than Nikons. I dont know much about Nikon lenses but I am pretty sure Nikons 24-70 f2.8 cost like 400-500 than the Canon version :p
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