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May 26 2009 02:54pm
Quote (Veilside @ Tue, May 26 2009, 04:51pm)
Depends, plenty of photographers don't edit their photographs. Sure, they might crop them to fit common paper sizes, but that's it.

If you've thought about the shot well beforehand, you shouldn't need to do any post processing on it.


but thats only one style of photography you're speaking of.
you have to think wider.

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Quote (Veilside @ Tue, 26 May 2009, 21:51)
Depends, plenty of photographers don't edit their photographs. Sure, they might crop them to fit common paper sizes, but that's it.

If you've thought about the shot well beforehand, you shouldn't need to do any post processing on it.

Well... I somewhat disagree with that. You save time if you save certain things for later. For instance, I always shoot my WB in auto and than disregard it when I judge the shot before hand. It's not until I open it up in photoshop when I actually edit the WB. This method has proven so much easier for me as I've noticed WB is one of those things which is easier to edit later (and something you'd otherwise have to continually change). Also, I find a 10px centered border around my images make them look a lot better than plain and that's not exactly something that's easy to replicate as you take the shot x'D The only other settings I really mess with is the fill light / recovery and selective saturation (slightly desaturating backgrounds etc to draw attention away from them).
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May 26 2009 03:07pm
Quote (mew @ Tue, May 26 2009, 09:54pm)
but thats only one style of photography you're speaking of.
you have to think wider.


No, it's photography in general. Effects can be achieved while taking the photograph. With good lighting and props.

Quote (Nevereon @ Tue, May 26 2009, 09:55pm)
Well... I somewhat disagree with that. You save time if you save certain things for later. For instance, I always shoot my WB in auto and than disregard it when I judge the shot before hand. It's not until I open it up in photoshop when I actually edit the WB. This method has proven so much easier for me as I've noticed WB is one of those things which is easier to edit later (and something you'd otherwise have to continually change). Also, I find a 10px centered border around my images make them look a lot better than plain and that's not exactly something that's easy to replicate as you take the shot x'D The only other settings I really mess with is the fill light / recovery and selective saturation (slightly desaturating backgrounds etc to draw attention away from them).


I usually shoot with my WB set to auto as well, only switching it when there's a predominant type of lighting, unless I want to get that colour cast in my image, a quick switch of a couple of buttons is hardly a major issue though, it's certainly not wasted time.

I disagree about borders, but that's not really important, you'd never, ever print a final image with a border on it, maybe for web presentation, sure, but I don't really see the point.


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May 26 2009 03:13pm
I think I would agree with Veilside.
Before the introduction of editing software and digital photos, your film photos would pretty much go unedited, and there are surely some amazing film photos.
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May 26 2009 03:16pm
Quote (Sonorous @ Tue, May 26 2009, 10:13pm)
I think I would agree with Veilside.
Before the introduction of editing software and digital photos, your film photos would pretty much go unedited, and there are surely some amazing film photos.


Not entirely sure, there're a lot of darkroom techniques used to edit photos.
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May 26 2009 03:17pm
Quote (Veilside @ Tue, 26 May 2009, 22:07)
No, it's photography in general. Effects can be achieved while taking the photograph. With good lighting and props.



I usually shoot with my WB set to auto as well, only switching it when there's a predominant type of lighting, unless I want to get that colour cast in my image, a quick switch of a couple of buttons is hardly a major issue though, it's certainly not wasted time.

I disagree about borders, but that's not really important, you'd never, ever print a final image with a border on it, maybe for web presentation, sure, but I don't really see the point.


Well, that's probably the difference between us :P I never ever make prints, and I use a lot of my images in my web-design (I'm actually doing a job right now which will be focused on image presentation). I'm kind of a hater of having to go in through my menu to change the the WB (my quick button is useless as the icons are so hard to identify lol) and I'm also the kind of person who only wants to take one or at the most a couple shots of the subject before being satisfied x3 I do tend to spend WAY too much time before the initial shot however ^_^
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May 26 2009 03:29pm
well photography like everything in existence is always evolving and getting better faster quicker and more efficent.
some people like the old ways, some people adjust to the new ways and other people just start somewhere and pick it up.

with lighting and props you can only do so much in a genre of photography, to achieve more you have to use editing, and sometimes its just time consuming.
in some cases its like plastic surgery for photography, people want perfection, and if something is off they can just edit and perfect. :)
can you honestly look in a magazine and say all done with lighting and props and film?

its just the concept of old vs new.

This post was edited by mew on May 26 2009 03:32pm
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May 26 2009 06:37pm
Aperture 2 ftw!

:D

Usually I don't really edit my photos...
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May 26 2009 06:51pm
Quote (Veilside @ Tue, May 26 2009, 02:11pm)
You shouldn't really be needing to edit your photos.


I am so glad I'm not the only one that thinks this. I hate editing photos... I'd rather much try to get it perfect just by shooting it. Editing just adds unrealistic colors/contrast/etc to the picture.
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May 26 2009 07:26pm
Quote (chantal7 @ Tue, May 26 2009, 08:51pm)
I am so glad I'm not the only one that thinks this. I hate editing photos... I'd rather much try to get it perfect just by shooting it. Editing just adds unrealistic colors/contrast/etc to the picture.


not always.

deviantart/flickr are perfect examples.

and again it has a lot to do with style/genre and what youre trying to aim at, and what you think works.



This post was edited by mew on May 26 2009 07:28pm
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