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Aug 21 2006 04:29am
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Quote (Lua @ Mon, Aug 21 2006, 10:15am)
osobne bych  na bvb pouzival botd a shaeled stormik btw stima steelama preferuju ow wink.gif


hlavne, ze mas ep babu si rikal...


taky ze lua .)
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nemam kdyby si nekdy zavital na bn si zahrat vis ze hraju ted za hammera xd baba ma naky botdy atd ale jinak ma nic dobre ep do pubu neplet ale vem si 50edamage ze steelu okolik ti zvysi dmg absnute soskou? to je zanedbatelny drauly ti zvysi sanci o 1/4 na ow wink.gif
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Aug 21 2006 05:57am
Quote (Lua @ Mon, Aug 21 2006, 10:30am)
nemam kdyby si nekdy zavital na bn si zahrat vis ze hraju ted za hammera xd baba ma naky botdy atd ale jinak ma nic dobre ep do pubu neplet ale vem si 50edamage ze steelu okolik ti zvysi dmg absnute soskou? to je zanedbatelny drauly ti zvysi sanci o 1/4 na ow wink.gif


Oh my god, tohle souveti? sem si musel parkrat cist, abych pochopil jak maji byt oddeleny vety. Kdyz uz chces psat bez carek, tak aspon za kazdou svoji myslenkou udelej tecku. smile.gif Ten tvuj ODHAD jestli steely nebo draculy, je opravdu pouze tipovani, protoze to nemas nijak podlozeny a myslim, ze proti sorckam si toho jeste s barbosem tolik nenaduelil, aby tvy tipy byli nejak extra presny. Rozhodne nejsem taky zadnej maser, abych tady moch placat naky svoje myslenky, a proto sem si to radsi nasel. Musim rict, ze sem si to ani cely necet, jen sem si precet zaver.smile.gif

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Dracul's vs. Steels Comparison

This comparisson will be done comparing the total average damage dished out by the same barb using steel/draculs.

Total Average Damage = Base Damage * chance for double + OW + CB

Base Damage = [Weapon AVG Damage + (+max damage/2)] * (1 + Stat Damage Multiplier + ED%/100)
Chance for double = crit strik/100 + (1-crit strik/100)*(deadly strike/100)
OW for lvl 9x chars = 25*(45*Clvl-1319)/256 dmg per sec /4 for pvp (577.25 total on 95)
CB for melee chars = [Enemy Life*0.10*(1-Enemy DR/100) cb dmg]

Let's say we got a cool barb who is going to switch steel & draculs:
-a lvl 95 barb
-with 415% BOTD BA which has 365 avg dmg,
-no max dmg from
-base str with steel/dracul,
-who is attacking a 4000 life, 25dr zon

First let's see what happens with steel: with 60/20 steel this makes 205 total str;

Total Avg Damage = [365 + (+0/2)] * (1 + 2.05 + .6) = 1332.25 base * 1.61 (chance for Double dmg) + [0.10 * 25*(45*Clvl-1319)/256 dmg per sec*8sec ow dmg] + 0.25*[4000*0.10*(1-25/100) cb dmg] = 2450.8

Second, with Dracul's +15str he would have 200 total str;

Total Avg Damage = [365 + (0/2)] * (1 + 2.0) = 1095 base * 1.61 (chance for Double dmg) + [0.35*25*(45*Clvl-1319)/256 dmg per sec *8sec ow dmg] + 0.15*[4000*0.10*(1-25/100) cb dmg] = 2616.11

CONCLUSION: Dracul's is better in any setup with a shield, Steel in any 2-hand setup.


Takze se ridim podle tohohle: 1x weapon -> draculs, 2x weapon -> steels

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Quote (Lua @ Sun, Aug 20 2006, 10:00pm)
....btw jo pletu sem asku ze mas pravdu stim ow na
pubu ale furt se tu najdou lidi ktery nezdrahaj;)....

Ja sem zadnou zminku o OW do tohoto topicu nenapsal. Ale klidne me oprav jestli se pletu.
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Aug 21 2006 09:04am
Quote (pugacov @ Mon, Aug 21 2006, 11:57am)
Quote (Lua @ Mon, Aug 21 2006, 10:30am)
nemam kdyby si nekdy zavital na bn si zahrat vis ze hraju ted za hammera xd baba ma naky botdy atd ale jinak ma nic dobre ep do pubu neplet ale vem si 50edamage ze steelu okolik ti zvysi dmg absnute soskou? to je zanedbatelny drauly ti zvysi sanci o 1/4 na ow wink.gif


Oh my god, tohle souveti? sem si musel parkrat cist, abych pochopil jak maji byt oddeleny vety. Kdyz uz chces psat bez carek, tak aspon za kazdou svoji myslenkou udelej tecku. smile.gif Ten tvuj ODHAD jestli steely nebo draculy, je opravdu pouze tipovani, protoze to nemas nijak podlozeny a myslim, ze proti sorckam si toho jeste s barbosem tolik nenaduelil, aby tvy tipy byli nejak extra presny. Rozhodne nejsem taky zadnej maser, abych tady moch placat naky svoje myslenky, a proto sem si to radsi nasel. Musim rict, ze sem si to ani cely necet, jen sem si precet zaver.smile.gif

CODE
Dracul's vs. Steels Comparison

This comparisson will be done comparing the total average damage dished out by the same barb using steel/draculs.

Total Average Damage = Base Damage * chance for double + OW + CB

Base Damage = [Weapon AVG Damage + (+max damage/2)] * (1 + Stat Damage Multiplier + ED%/100)
Chance for double = crit strik/100 + (1-crit strik/100)*(deadly strike/100)
OW for lvl 9x chars = 25*(45*Clvl-1319)/256 dmg per sec /4 for pvp (577.25 total on 95)
CB for melee chars = [Enemy Life*0.10*(1-Enemy DR/100) cb dmg]

Let's say we got a cool barb who is going to switch steel & draculs:
-a lvl 95 barb
-with 415% BOTD BA which has 365 avg dmg,
-no max dmg from
-base str with steel/dracul,
-who is attacking a 4000 life, 25dr zon

First let's see what happens with steel: with 60/20 steel this makes 205 total str;

Total Avg Damage = [365 + (+0/2)] * (1 + 2.05 + .6) = 1332.25 base * 1.61 (chance for Double dmg) + [0.10 * 25*(45*Clvl-1319)/256 dmg per sec*8sec ow dmg] + 0.25*[4000*0.10*(1-25/100) cb dmg] = 2450.8

Second, with Dracul's +15str he would have 200 total str;

Total Avg Damage = [365 + (0/2)] * (1 + 2.0) = 1095 base * 1.61 (chance for Double dmg) + [0.35*25*(45*Clvl-1319)/256 dmg per sec *8sec ow dmg] + 0.15*[4000*0.10*(1-25/100) cb dmg] = 2616.11

CONCLUSION: Dracul's is better in any setup with a shield, Steel in any 2-hand setup.


Takze se ridim podle tohohle: 1x weapon -> draculs, 2x weapon -> steels


uzitecne srovnani.

Jeste k tomu, kdybych nekdy zavital na bn, rad bych ale vyhorela mi zakladova deska a cekam na novou.

This post was edited by Sentinel4 on Aug 21 2006 09:06am
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Aug 21 2006 10:44am
ok sry zero to psla okp btw viky to sem nevedel
ale ze bvb s shaeled stormem a botd i na pubech je nej mi nikdo nevymluvi wink.gif
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Quote (Lua @ Mon, Aug 21 2006, 05:44pm)
... ale ze bvb s shaeled stormem a botd i na pubech je nej mi nikdo nevymluvi wink.gif
Mozna kdyby si pouzil hlavu a snazil si neco propocitat, tak bys zmenil nazor.

No nic, ja uz sem radsi prestanu prispivat, undead_lord tobe bych doporucil trocha vic samostatnosti, treba na ep strankach by si toho nasel vic nez tady. A existuje i vice stranek , kde se da brouzdat a obsahuji to podstatne.

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Aug 21 2006 11:53am
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Quote (Lua @ Mon, Aug 21 2006, 05:44pm)
... ale ze bvb s shaeled stormem a botd i na pubech je nej mi nikdo nevymluvi wink.gif
Mozna kdyby si pouzil hlavu a snazil si neco propocitat, tak bys zmenil nazor.

No nic, ja uz sem radsi prestanu prispivat, undead_lord tobe bych doporucil trocha vic samostatnosti, treba na ep strankach by si toho nasel vic nez tady. A existuje i vice stranek , kde se da brouzdat a obsahuji to podstatne.


jak jsem psal, chtel jsem slyset jenom vase osobni nazory. Na ostatnich strankach pisou jenom jak hrat, co si vzit atd..
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Aug 21 2006 12:18pm
muj nazor je to co jsem napsal + pugyho nektere nazory, preber si to jak chces, barbar je dost individualni char a da se hrat mnoha zpusoby v pubu. musisi si vybrat sam to, co te bude nejvice bavit.
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Aug 22 2006 09:42am
nekdo rika, ze last wish je nejlepsi pro barba. Co si o tom myslite?
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