I don't see why there isn't one of these, considering most games have one.

mostly because we just make random topics along the lines of this

This. No point.

I literally do the best on my team every single QM no matter who I pick... are players really this bad?

depends whats ur mmr

If you are actually topping all the charts every single game like you are saying and not increasing your MMR to the point which this does not always happen then chances are you are screwing up and making your team lose in other ways that may not be easy for you to see without viewing a replay.


There is a reason why pro players are all at the top in regards to MMR...because they do the things you claim to be doing while also not screwing up in any other way (that may not be measured on the stats screen) on a very consistent basis...which makes their teams win most of the time...which increases their MMR until they literally play the same 50 people all day/night.

Sometimes when I play I do something and at the end of the game I realize had I not made that mistake....my team probably would of won. Doesn't matter about all the other retarded mistakes I saw my teammates make...you can't control those. Focus on your own mistakes in game and you will improve as a player and your MMR will increase.

I think the MMR system is flawed, due to such a heavy basis on winning or losing the game.
I play solo 99% of the time, so of course there's not solid teamwork or communication for most games.
It also requires you to upload every replay.
It shows my stats but has the majority of it wrong.. has all my character levels wrong and my last games played recorded as losses instead of wins.
I'm not sure how to get everything up to date. I uploaded my entire folder of replays just now, but nothing has changed.

But yes, I agree with Perserverance and I understand the basis behind it.
I'll use my last murky game for example..
If I'm at 150k siege (next highest 40k), 40k hero damage (on par with everyone else), and 22k xp gained (next highest 10k).. I think there's something wrong.
Yes, I know where I made some mistakes, either misclick or having a skill out of range on accident.. but still.

I would really like to play with some of you guys that actually use communication and know how to play the game.
I have never really been competitive with games, but it gets tiring feeling like you have teams holding you back from a higher potential.

This post was edited by EwokHellKite on Aug 23 2015 03:26pm

If you upload all of your matches then (from my personal experiences) everything should be up to date in 3-4 days.

A big thing about being able to understand your mistakes is....sure sometimes you got mega siege and you are keeping up with the team in hero damage...but part of that could be the laning phase. If you are Murky you will likely solo lane...meaning you get much more exp (cause you aren't sharing) than everyone else who is paired up in a lane. Additionally, where your dual-lane teammates have to share the 7 minions/wave (in regards to siege damage) you get to kill them all on your own...which will inflate your damage greatly.

I see the above a lot when I play leoric. I try to always solo lane vs their warrior (often johanna or muradin) and because:
1. I am killing all the minions (big siege numbers)
2. I am easily bullying them because neither of those heroes can effectively beat a leoric (I frequently win 1v1 vs warrior mains playing these heroes who have 3800+ MMR just because leoric is so strong against them). This is significant because Johanna's D ability gives her a 20% shield that I eat away with my W and it pads my damage and Muradin's passive gives him very good regen that allows me to do the same (Thus making my numbers look more impressive than they really are).
3. Because of my strong lane clear, and very good bullying abilities/sustain I can press the enemy warrior up against his towers and do even more siege damage (essentially the match-up is giving me these big numbers...not me being awesome or better than them).


Other things to look for in regards to inflated numbers that don't really mean much are:
1. Are you vs a bw or another hero that has a ton of sustain (aka he will freely let you damage him because he can get his life back without worrying too much about dying)
2. Are you a high damage dealing hero (Obviously KT will post larger numbers than zeratul)...in which case...yeah, you should have the highest hero damage, and depending on how smart the enemy team is...your damage might be 40-50k higher than everyone else's.
3. Are you afk split pushing all game? (Sure, you have 250k siege damage...but there is probably a reason why everyone on your team has 7+ deaths....and its probably less that they suck and more that every one of their fights are 4v5)
4. Are you trying to compare your damage as Diablo to the other teams ETC and declare yourself "king warrior overlord of the noobs"? Pretty sure ETC will do around 50% of Diablo's damage....and that is if he is a decent ETC.


I think you can see where I am going with this. There are a lot of mitigating factors that might explain why your numbers are so much larger than everyone else's (which are all typically less that your team was the worst and more that one of the above can explain some or all of the damage differences when you press tab).

The part where you analyze what you did wrong though, that is what will generally separate the average players from the good players, as this game doesn't really require much mechanical skill to be good at it...and honestly mechanics only become a significant factor in upper tiers of play [unless of course you are handicapped or something....but I am assuming anyone reading this is a capable, rational human being (sorry rabidsquirrel this post just isn't for you bud) that does not have any significant physical or mental deficiencies].

I can use an example of this for when I play with my brother, who is typically pretty rational but a little slow on the mechanics side. Anyway, sometimes when we play...he does a dumb thing. These dumb things are sometimes what cause us to lose our games. He does not always like to admit when he did a dumb thing...or maybe sometimes he just doesn't understand that what he did was really actually what caused us to lose.

This is why his MMR is around 500 below mine. Honestly, a lot of the reason why my MMR is 500 below players who are rated higher than me is probably for the exact same reason. Not all of us can see/understand the best/smartest plays to make. Typically only the top .05% of players can do this...which has a lot to do with why they are the top .05%. The best way to make yourself a better player is to focus on everything stupid you do. Next game when the same situation occurs...don't make the same stupid mistake.

If you do this your MMR/rank will rise and you will maybe start having fun again.



TLDR: Stuff and things. I forgot already.

Good post, guys should read it.