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Jan 8 2016 04:22pm
Quote (Eternal_Amaranth @ Jan 8 2016 03:17pm)
How does MMR work exactly?

My most recent game, our team won. I'm 2300 MMR (shit I know.. don't play much and I've only lost 1 game) and I got +77 MMR from that game. Our 1800 MMR Sgt Hammer got +5 MMR and 1760 Muradin got +47 MMR.

What causes the variance?


your first 20 games will gain/lose you the most MMR. this is an expediting process formulated by the MMR algorithms that blizzard/hotslogs scripted. after that youll get +/- 5 to 15 mmr per game

This post was edited by SC_Leader on Jan 8 2016 04:22pm
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Jan 8 2016 05:59pm
Quote (SC_Leader @ Jan 8 2016 03:22pm)
your first 20 games will gain/lose you the most MMR. this is an expediting process formulated by the MMR algorithms that blizzard/hotslogs scripted. after that youll get +/- 5 to 15 mmr per game


yup. Essentially, the more games you play the less variance you'll see per win/loss.

Also, MMR gained/lost is done on a TEAM level...meaning that if you have 4k mmr but your friend has 3k mmr you won't lose more for a loss than him...since all your MMRs are averaged into a single TEAM mmr.

I think poopies meant to say first 200 games though, rather than 20...cause it takes around 100-200 for your MMR to really 'settle' to where you actually belong skillwise.

Another thing to note is, if you are 2300 now with only a few games played...chances are you are going to climb a bit above that (unless you got some lucky wins or something...which is pretty common in the beginning of peoples placements).
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Jan 10 2016 01:34pm
I've been insanely streaky since returning. I don't remember it being like this before all the Matchmaking reworking.

I'll go on like a 5 game HL winning streak, then go on an 8 game HL losing streak, then win 4 in a row, then lose 5, then win 7.

I don't feel like I'm playing any worse in these matches, my K/D is obviously slightly worse on losing teams but my typical Seige/Hero dmg and EXP is all pretty steady. I went from rank 20 after 20 game placement, to Rank 9 in 1 day, then down to 12, then back to 9, now down to 14.

Crazy. Maybe just a fluke. Feels like, same as always, all matches are complete steamrolls either winning or losing. We either outkill the team 37-9 or get rocked 40-5. Is this streak-y-ness common?

This post was edited by TheDutchMan1443 on Jan 10 2016 01:35pm
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Jan 10 2016 04:01pm
Quote (TheDutchMan1443 @ Jan 10 2016 12:34pm)
I've been insanely streaky since returning. I don't remember it being like this before all the Matchmaking reworking.

I'll go on like a 5 game HL winning streak, then go on an 8 game HL losing streak, then win 4 in a row, then lose 5, then win 7.

I don't feel like I'm playing any worse in these matches, my K/D is obviously slightly worse on losing teams but my typical Seige/Hero dmg and EXP is all pretty steady. I went from rank 20 after 20 game placement, to Rank 9 in 1 day, then down to 12, then back to 9, now down to 14.

Crazy. Maybe just a fluke. Feels like, same as always, all matches are complete steamrolls either winning or losing. We either outkill the team 37-9 or get rocked 40-5. Is this streak-y-ness common?


I think it is semi common in the sense that this game is easy to get frustrated at and tilt due to your teammates (who often times are shit) having such a huge impact in the game. So one bad game can make you tilt and lose another which can just get you sucked into a negative mindset where you couldn't care less about losing....happens to me all the time.
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Jan 10 2016 08:18pm
Quote (Perseverance1 @ Jan 8 2016 07:59pm)
yup. Essentially, the more games you play the less variance you'll see per win/loss.

Also, MMR gained/lost is done on a TEAM level...meaning that if you have 4k mmr but your friend has 3k mmr you won't lose more for a loss than him...since all your MMRs are averaged into a single TEAM mmr.

I think poopies meant to say first 200 games though, rather than 20...cause it takes around 100-200 for your MMR to really 'settle' to where you actually belong skillwise.

Another thing to note is, if you are 2300 now with only a few games played...chances are you are going to climb a bit above that (unless you got some lucky wins or something...which is pretty common in the beginning of peoples placements).


Yeah I'm 2385 with 3 placement games left. I don't remember if it was said on here, Reddit or both, but what's fucked me before is trying to fill gaps for a team. Idc if we need a support.. I'm picking an Assassin..
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Jan 10 2016 11:38pm
Quote (TheDutchMan1443 @ Jan 10 2016 02:34pm)
I've been insanely streaky since returning. I don't remember it being like this before all the Matchmaking reworking.

I'll go on like a 5 game HL winning streak, then go on an 8 game HL losing streak, then win 4 in a row, then lose 5, then win 7.

I don't feel like I'm playing any worse in these matches, my K/D is obviously slightly worse on losing teams but my typical Seige/Hero dmg and EXP is all pretty steady. I went from rank 20 after 20 game placement, to Rank 9 in 1 day, then down to 12, then back to 9, now down to 14.

Crazy. Maybe just a fluke. Feels like, same as always, all matches are complete steamrolls either winning or losing. We either outkill the team 37-9 or get rocked 40-5. Is this streak-y-ness common?


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Jan 11 2016 12:16am
Quote (Eternal_Amaranth @ Jan 10 2016 07:18pm)
Yeah I'm 2385 with 3 placement games left. I don't remember if it was said on here, Reddit or both, but what's fucked me before is trying to fill gaps for a team. Idc if we need a support.. I'm picking an Assassin..


My brother is around that MMR and he has the same issue/mindset.
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Jan 11 2016 08:54am
Quote (Perseverance1 @ Jan 11 2016 02:16am)
My brother is around that MMR and he has the same issue/mindset.


Easier to carry. If anything I'll grab the tank but not support
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Jan 11 2016 12:10pm
Quote (Eternal_Amaranth @ Jan 11 2016 07:54am)
Easier to carry. If anything I'll grab the tank but not support


he just plays raynor/kt/tyrande as much as he can and seems to believe it is helping him win.
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Jan 11 2016 04:31pm
Quote (Perseverance1 @ Jan 11 2016 11:10am)
he just plays raynor/kt/tyrande as much as he can and seems to believe it is helping him win.



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