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Feb 11 2016 07:00pm
Quote (Perseverance1 @ Feb 11 2016 07:38pm)
Shit like this doesn't seem right to me. In League you wouldn't see people routinely go from Plat 2 (roughly rank 4 equivalent--%wise) to Gold 2 in 3 days......

I dunno, I think I read that blizz was doing some kind of ranking system similar to sc2//LoL which I think will be a lot better for everyone in terms of ranking up/down.

The system they have in place now is shit and honestly the person who actually believed that the "top" rank housing a full 2% of the population was a good idea should genuinely get fired. 100% of top end players of literally any MOBA or recent Blizzard title (not developers, but players) could of told you that this was a retarded idea. Literally 16 year old kids knew this. Probably even a couple who were younger than that. Shit, seiqooq is like 11 years old and I guarantee he's smart enough to know that releasing a "competitive esport" with a ranking system this shitty was a godawful idea.


fml blizz y u gotta hire retards? Next thing you know squirrel will be working there.


Yeah it's a weird system. I could understand if you reached rank 1, and wenty idle, if you slowly dropped out of rank 1 while "AFK" as people reached rank 1 while you were idle, but the concept that once you reach rank 1 all you do is start collecting insurance points and then can afk for 3-4 months and be rank 1 still is strange to me.

I kind of expected a dip off after that strong weekend I had, but like I said, my play hasn't really changed. I'm still cycling the same heroes for the most part (Diablo, Uther, Jaina, Li-Ming, Leoric) that I was before. But it just feels really strange right now. I could understand a rough patch but this is 3 nights in a row of people who don't seem to know what they are doing being put on my team. I'm not sure if it's just luck of the draw, or if it's a balancing tool they use to say "Hey, you're only 2500 MMR, you shouldn't be rank 4".

I'm not sure if I mentioned but last night I was paired with a player who literally had no idea what he was doing. He was trying to aggro the boss alone when all 5 were up spam pinging for us to come. Peeling off team fights to grab camps. Crazy stuff. I looked at his match history after and he had won something like 13 in a row on HL. I had to scroll off the first page to find a loss.

I'm wondering if the game is split into rank 10 "A" pool and rank 10 "B" pool and it just puts you on what ever side it feels you should be based on your hidden MMR.

I've noticed a difference from rank 12-10 games NOW vs the ones I played 5 days ago when I was "winning". The team comps are worse, people are playing worse. I actually felt like I was playing rank 40 a few times last night. Even games I lost I felt like the other team was just insanely bad compared to the rank 10s I played the week prior.

Maybe there is more behind the scenes than I know about. Or maybe just a string of bad luck :P I just got 320 points for a win @ rank 14 lol. 220 Bonus points.


I just added it up. I'm 10-26 since monday night. Pretty big swing for a 54-56% player for the other 300+ HL games :P

This post was edited by TheDutchMan1443 on Feb 11 2016 07:03pm
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Feb 11 2016 07:16pm
Quote (Perseverance1 @ Feb 11 2016 05:22pm)
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Feb 11 2016 07:48pm
Quote (TheDutchMan1443 @ Feb 11 2016 06:00pm)
Yeah it's a weird system. I could understand if you reached rank 1, and wenty idle, if you slowly dropped out of rank 1 while "AFK" as people reached rank 1 while you were idle, but the concept that once you reach rank 1 all you do is start collecting insurance points and then can afk for 3-4 months and be rank 1 still is strange to me.

I kind of expected a dip off after that strong weekend I had, but like I said, my play hasn't really changed. I'm still cycling the same heroes for the most part (Diablo, Uther, Jaina, Li-Ming, Leoric) that I was before. But it just feels really strange right now. I could understand a rough patch but this is 3 nights in a row of people who don't seem to know what they are doing being put on my team. I'm not sure if it's just luck of the draw, or if it's a balancing tool they use to say "Hey, you're only 2500 MMR, you shouldn't be rank 4".

I'm not sure if I mentioned but last night I was paired with a player who literally had no idea what he was doing. He was trying to aggro the boss alone when all 5 were up spam pinging for us to come. Peeling off team fights to grab camps. Crazy stuff. I looked at his match history after and he had won something like 13 in a row on HL. I had to scroll off the first page to find a loss.

I'm wondering if the game is split into rank 10 "A" pool and rank 10 "B" pool and it just puts you on what ever side it feels you should be based on your hidden MMR.

I've noticed a difference from rank 12-10 games NOW vs the ones I played 5 days ago when I was "winning". The team comps are worse, people are playing worse. I actually felt like I was playing rank 40 a few times last night. Even games I lost I felt like the other team was just insanely bad compared to the rank 10s I played the week prior.

Maybe there is more behind the scenes than I know about. Or maybe just a string of bad luck :P I just got 320 points for a win @ rank 14 lol. 220 Bonus points.


I just added it up. I'm 10-26 since monday night. Pretty big swing for a 54-56% player for the other 300+ HL games :P


There is certainly a HUGE skill gap between even some rank 5-12 players. I mean....when I would duo q with other high MMR players if we were lucky we would get those ranks and typically got anything from rank 20-40 on our team to even out the MMR....but what I noticed through all those games is it really feels like there is a pretty big gamble on who your teammate is. Like...obviously we had to carry pretty hard if we wanted to win since we would be up against 5 lower mmr rank 1 players or something but I dunno....seemed like any one of those potatoes doing what you describe above could derail an entire team effort. It definitely made the game a lot less fun for me and helped me decide I wasn't that interested in competitive hots anymore, which sucks because while duo q with my gf is fun and I enjoy spending time with her, carrying vs a group of rank 4-5 players is pretty easy and doesn't help you actually improve at the game at all. If anything, it actually makes you worse for around 10-20 high mmr games before you can really get your groove back and remember what its like to not play vs people easier to beat on than AI.
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Feb 11 2016 07:56pm
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There is certainly a HUGE skill gap between even some rank 5-12 players. I mean....when I would duo q with other high MMR players if we were lucky we would get those ranks and typically got anything from rank 20-40 on our team to even out the MMR....but what I noticed through all those games is it really feels like there is a pretty big gamble on who your teammate is. Like...obviously we had to carry pretty hard if we wanted to win since we would be up against 5 lower mmr rank 1 players or something but I dunno....seemed like any one of those potatoes doing what you describe above could derail an entire team effort. It definitely made the game a lot less fun for me and helped me decide I wasn't that interested in competitive hots anymore, which sucks because while duo q with my gf is fun and I enjoy spending time with her, carrying vs a group of rank 4-5 players is pretty easy and doesn't help you actually improve at the game at all. If anything, it actually makes you worse for around 10-20 high mmr games before you can really get your groove back and remember what its like to not play vs people easier to beat on than AI.


Yeah that's true. I'm going away this weekend with the gf. I think the 3 days away from HotS will do me good :P

I wish QM was more interesting so I didn't feel like I was forced to play HL.

Maybe I'll spend the rest of tonight learning some new heroes on AI. :)

edit: the uther on our last team took the dmg Ult lol :P

This post was edited by TheDutchMan1443 on Feb 11 2016 07:57pm
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Feb 11 2016 08:39pm
Let's talk Zeratul.

So it used to be Regen/Wormhole/Cleave or double Bombs/Rewind

Now it seems the meta build is a complete glass cannon with SA. Ganking is obvious but, what's the purple of Zera in a team fight? Picking off the back line? Waiting for a weak character to retreat?
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Feb 11 2016 11:28pm
Quote (Eternal_Amaranth @ Feb 11 2016 07:39pm)
Let's talk Zeratul.

So it used to be Regen/Wormhole/Cleave or double Bombs/Rewind

Now it seems the meta build is a complete glass cannon with SA. Ganking is obvious but, what's the purple of Zera in a team fight? Picking off the back line? Waiting for a weak character to retreat?


either setting up a good VP or picking someone off before someone gets to the fight
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Feb 11 2016 11:37pm
Quote (SC_Leader @ Feb 11 2016 10:28pm)
either setting up a good VP or picking someone off before someone gets to the fight


This. Also, if a support has their cooldowns blown you can pop in for an easy kill. Malf is probably the easiest one to pull this off on unless you can get a rhegar thats poorly positioned or something.
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Feb 11 2016 11:46pm
o shit

poopies MMR over 3600 now

the climb is real. God tier inc.
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Feb 12 2016 01:52am
i got silenced for 24 hours how do i fix my hotslog
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Feb 12 2016 02:03am
so i just came back and havent played in months, my god is ling lang is OP as fuck.... I was like top 200 rank 1 before i quit and my mmr still has me at top 500 LOL
It feels like auto loss if enemy team has ling lang
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