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Jul 5 2015 05:00pm
Quote (joelpwnsx @ Jul 4 2015 07:49pm)
Thanks for all the input. It's leaving me conflicted with my next choice however.

Bought Jaina, so I play her and Valla pretty heavily. Really hurts me I didn't see any Valla support. She has such sick skill building to make her the scariest burst. Maybe cause I'm playing at lower levels, but I always kill the hero damage part compared to both teams. Just not viable in team comps or something? I build her this main way usually, but depending on who I have experience verse, may change one or two things.

-Cost-effective
-Puncturing arrow
-Repeat arrow
-Rain of vengeance
-Frost shot
-Tumble
-Nexus frenzy

Dat kiting and burst.. I don't even know man.

Probably going to buy Anub, Sylvanas, or Brightwing next. Get more roles filled out. Have enough gold for anything.


That build is pretty bad. A much better one is

Composite arrows
Arsenal
repeating arrow or searing attacks
strafe
frost shot
tumble
nexus frenzy

+ experience. Valla is great once u get used to her
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Jul 5 2015 05:15pm
Quote (Demand @ Jul 5 2015 04:00pm)
That build is pretty bad. A much better one is

Composite arrows
Arsenal
repeating arrow or searing attacks
strafe
frost shot
tumble
nexus frenzy

+ experience. Valla is great once u get used to her


and a better version of the one above is to grab b4b instead of tumble @ 16 and vs really tanky teams take giant killer @ 13 instead of frost shot.
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Jul 5 2015 09:55pm
I'll give those a try. Open to the ideas. Just love the one I been using. If you haven't tried it, I suggest you do. That extra 25% range and three bolts (six total) is fucking killer when you single people down. Composite arrows I do sometimes, but verse teams I think are squishy, I'm shooting q's for days early.
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Jul 6 2015 12:36am
Quote (Perseverance1 @ Jul 6 2015 03:45am)
and a better version of the one above is to grab b4b instead of tumble @ 16 and vs really tanky teams take giant killer @ 13 instead of frost shot.


I think tumble is a better option after the nerf especially when combined with repeating arrow. Can hungering arrow, vault, hungering arrow again, vault, hungering arrow a 3rd time for a lot of burst.

blood for blood is pretty good if you're low on health but I'm not a big fan of it after the patch with no slow
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Jul 6 2015 01:58pm
Quote (Demand @ Jul 5 2015 06:00pm)
That build is pretty bad. A much better one is

Composite arrows
Arsenal
repeating arrow or searing attacks
strafe
frost shot
tumble
nexus frenzy

+ experience. Valla is great once u get used to her


Why is this bad? It can kill any char at full health 1v1 except super tanks like chen/johanna. Bolt over nexus frenzy and it makes valla have tons of escape options
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Jul 6 2015 03:25pm
Quote (Demand @ Jul 5 2015 11:36pm)
I think tumble is a better option after the nerf especially when combined with repeating arrow. Can hungering arrow, vault, hungering arrow again, vault, hungering arrow a 3rd time for a lot of burst.

blood for blood is pretty good if you're low on health but I'm not a big fan of it after the patch with no slow


I don't know of many situations where valla is going to really get 3 Q's off without getting herself killed vs a competent team. Stealing 10% of muradin/azmodan/johanna/diablo's HP with 1 button and gaining 20% (roughly 2/3 of your total health bar) on the otherhand is useful in every single team fight.
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Jul 6 2015 10:07pm
Quote (Perseverance1 @ Jul 6 2015 04:25pm)
I don't know of many situations where valla is going to really get 3 Q's off without getting herself killed vs a competent team. Stealing 10% of muradin/azmodan/johanna/diablo's HP with 1 button and gaining 20% (roughly 2/3 of your total health bar) on the otherhand is useful in every single team fight.


I see what you mean, I really do. I tried out the suggested builds. They're effective, but I guess I don't expect to get hit too quickly in team fights. That Q range increase allows me a safe one, vault in, R-Q-W, vault out, another Q. Then with Nexus Frenzy I can stand back and poke with correct positioning. They charge me, they have to catch me and leave their team to fend. Which happens a lot, but two people will chase and fuck their team.

I guess it'll come down to per team comp situation. Definitely not saying mine works every game. It doesn't. It works very well though if you know how to control your bitch. Do you know what I am saying?

This post was edited by joelpwnsx on Jul 6 2015 10:29pm
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Jul 6 2015 10:48pm
Quote (joelpwnsx @ Jul 7 2015 12:07am)
I see what you mean, I really do. I tried out the suggested builds. They're effective, but I guess I don't expect to get hit too quickly in team fights. That Q range increase allows me a safe one, vault in, R-Q-W, vault out, another Q. Then with Nexus Frenzy I can stand back and poke with correct positioning. They charge me, they have to catch me and leave their team to fend. Which happens a lot, but two people will chase and fuck their team.

I guess it'll come down to per team comp situation. Definitely not saying mine works every game. It doesn't. It works very well though if you know how to control your bitch. Do you know what I am saying?


This is assuming you have full mana since that combo is going to cost about 75% of it.
Valla already has mana issues as it is I can't imagine with this build.
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Jul 7 2015 12:13am
Cost effective arrows, are cost effective.
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Jul 7 2015 09:39pm
Quote (joelpwnsx @ Jul 6 2015 09:07pm)
I see what you mean, I really do. I tried out the suggested builds. They're effective, but I guess I don't expect to get hit too quickly in team fights. That Q range increase allows me a safe one, vault in, R-Q-W, vault out, another Q. Then with Nexus Frenzy I can stand back and poke with correct positioning. They charge me, they have to catch me and leave their team to fend. Which happens a lot, but two people will chase and fuck their team.

I guess it'll come down to per team comp situation. Definitely not saying mine works every game. It doesn't. It works very well though if you know how to control your bitch. Do you know what I am saying?


I know where you are coming from. I did some weird shit before I figured out that smarter people than me found the most effective builds. I switched to their builds and my MMR shot up about 600 points and I got to rank 1 within a week.

That is what made me happy.

If you don't give a shit about rank or improvement or progression...then do whatever wonky build makes you happy. In the end...all that really matters is how much fun you had right?
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