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Jun 30 2015 05:23pm

Quote (Str1k3 @ Jun 30 2015 04:44am)

Imo detecting Nova is pretty easy the more experienced players hide in bushes but there are obvious indicators.

I usually team up with friends and my first msg in TC is "If somebody picks crap like nova/raynor/chen or useless characters on those maps, we will pick murky abathur and TLV"
That makes those annoying picks disappear or somebody bailing.

There are too many players getting carried to certain ranks not having any support or tank because they wasted all on Assasins and their only level 10+ character is Nova.

Nah they are only top DPS if you do many team fights.
If you keep your opponent busy with mercs you can easily kill them with bursts.

Especially KT is easily countered by melees.

Nova is just bad because no Lane EXP and experienced players lower the settings so much that nova and zerathul appear as an obvious blurr on screen.

Novas time to shine is level 20+ but that's only a given if the teams are equally strong. If you are losing Nova can't do anything.

GL countering Tass or Tyrande.

If someone chooses one of those heroes (Which are currently shitty except for very FEW situations) then I am going to count that as a win. Tass is only good on mines now since his promote got nerfed (Pre nerf he still wasn't that great unless part of a specific team comp) and Tyrande is bad unless shes going to be a part of a roaming gank squad (Which is usually only seen in top levels of play IE tournaments/team league not solo q).

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Jun 30 2015 06:31pm

Have you ever met good Tyrande or Tassadar players?

Tyrande is a great damage enabler, marker and spy and Tassadar can decide teamfights. Sure they are not the best picks but if you know how to syngerize classes and to play them they are powerful.

Nova is imo one of the bottom picks because no matter how good the player is Nova doesn't contribute anything to early game.

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solo q

Bah when I soloqueue I even see horrible combination + horrible picks and play.
Even a win on such combinations feels bad.

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Jun 30 2015 08:28pm

Quote (Str1k3 @ Jun 30 2015 05:31pm)

I know statitstics.

Statistically speaking nova is a much better hero than tass or tyrande at the only levels that matter

Statistically speaking nova wins many more games than tass or tyrande at the only levels that matter

When I speak about hots it is typically in reference to some factual data that I have read. I do this because I don't usually like to sound fucking retarded.

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Jul 1 2015 12:19pm

Statistics from noobs in Hotslogs.

High level play doesn't include Nova. And players realizing that Nova is a losing factor are improving unlike those level 20 Nova players.

You can judge Nova by the abilities:
Can soak->nope
Can solo camps->nope
Has good HP-> nope
can kill heroes solo->Yes
useful in Teamfights->Nope
Escapeabillity->Only in low level plays.
Can defend core->Nope
Most useful in->Level 20+

Nova would be a great character if Hots would work like other mobas.

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Jul 1 2015 01:27pm

Quote (Str1k3 @ Jul 1 2015 11:19am)

yeah I used the statistics from master tier players....so like....the top 1% of players, some of whom have already won thousands of dollars playing this game professionally. But yeah they are bad you are good nvm you know everything.

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