Cold embrace >

Chuck it at the enemy team during teamfights and u win

If you don't take blood for blood @ 16 you are doing something wrong.

Also, never take any talent but envenom @ level 4 unless you want to literally have zero kill potential early game. Aka any good player will walk all over you and bully you in lane without issue.

Pretty much what I was thinking.

Oh yeah, forgot you were the one with the Master Sylvanas skin...probably a good person to get some insight from as I don't play sylv a ton.

Anyway, here is a link that shows you what all the players better than us do. As I suspected the build with the highest win rate (and a fairly large player sample for master league) is the one taking both Envenom and Blood for Blood.

https://www.hotslogs.com/Sitewide/HeroDetails?Hero=Sylvanas

Just scroll to the very bottom, the rest is self explanatory.

lol yeah what would I know

only had sylv ten for the past month

but yeah

I wouldn't know anything about kill potential


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cold embrace is crazy good
even on hot dogs its fairly split on that against blood for blood

probably just meta people picking b4b and actual players picking cold embrace (which is truly better)
b4b getting damage nerf in 9 days anyways

Yeah but you don't seem to be factoring in the large increase in win percentage from "meta people" picking b4b vs the "actual players" taking cold embrace. Statistics never lie and with the majority of the top ranked players taking b4b AND having a 3% higher win rate....it's kind of hard to argue against.

also...b4b is going from 15/15 to 10/20....so I don't know how that will change the way it's used but it is less of a nerf and more of just an overall change.

Eh it really depends. I took 25% vuln last game to get rank 1 because they had beefy characters and like 1 jaina i COULD NOT get to, so I just used vuln on closest target so every1 else got a 25% dmg inc on him and blew him up. It was mainly on anub cuz his tanking is a bit squishy, depending on ur build as well obv..
But mainly you grab BfB it's broken with envenom+dagger

This post was edited by Samich on Jun 21 2015 08:50pm

Blood for blood is a great skill but in a 5v5 teamfight cold embrace just makes you win. It is worse in a smaller fight but still good. Spreading vulnerability to all members of a team is broken and imo is an auto pick at 16.

You also have to factor in that you can do this every 10 seconds and blood for blood has a 60 second cooldown.

This post was edited by Demand on Jun 22 2015 12:25am

In my opinion, this is a situational pick.
It depends on the map and/ or enemy team comp.