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Oct 26 2015 08:06pm
im great with assassins and dps'ers in general, and currently only own illidan

which of these 4 should i get next & why?

/e whoops kinda brainlessly bought zeratul, rip. guess we'll see how i like him

This post was edited by SC_Leader on Oct 26 2015 08:12pm
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Oct 26 2015 09:13pm
Everyone thinks they are great with dps and assassins
All 4 are good

This post was edited by itzpookiie on Oct 26 2015 09:13pm
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Oct 26 2015 11:53pm
Jaina is currently the best of those 4 if you are following the meta.
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Oct 27 2015 07:10am
Quote (Perseverance1 @ Oct 27 2015 01:53am)
Jaina is currently the best of those 4 if you are following the meta.


Ok

Please stop. Your posts are extremely annoying to read.

What the fuck does the meta have to do with anything? What do tournament win rates have to do with anything? These guys aren't playing that shit. Nobody here is good enough to be in those tournaments. Stop referencing what the best players in the world are playing.

KT and Jaina are both good. Zeratul has his place and Nova is pretty bad..
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Oct 27 2015 08:31am
Quote (Eternal_Amaranth @ Oct 27 2015 01:10pm)
Ok

Please stop. Your posts are extremely annoying to read.

What the fuck does the meta have to do with anything? What do tournament win rates have to do with anything? These guys aren't playing that shit. Nobody here is good enough to be in those tournaments. Stop referencing what the best players in the world are playing.

KT and Jaina are both good. Zeratul has his place and Nova is pretty bad..


I assumed nova was good with her burst and cloak
btw loving the fuck out of falstad
how fun is nazeebo? can he solo assassins if one is trying to pick him off from the back w/ the snare and stuff or strictly pusher/team
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Oct 27 2015 10:12am
Quote (itzpookiie @ Oct 27 2015 10:31am)
I assumed nova was good with her burst and cloak
btw loving the fuck out of falstad
how fun is nazeebo? can he solo assassins if one is trying to pick him off from the back w/ the snare and stuff or strictly pusher/team


She's ok but once you get into higher MMRs I think she's less usefull, especially since people know how to look for her. Zeratul is still better because of Void Prison IMO

Yeah I love Falstad. He's not the greatest but just so fun to play.

Nazeebo is extremely good. Has the potential to 1v1 an Assassin yeah but better as a lane pusher.
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Oct 27 2015 10:40am
Quote (Eternal_Amaranth @ Oct 27 2015 04:12pm)
She's ok but once you get into higher MMRs I think she's less usefull, especially since people know how to look for her. Zeratul is still better because of Void Prison IMO

Yeah I love Falstad. He's not the greatest but just so fun to play.

Nazeebo is extremely good. Has the potential to 1v1 an Assassin yeah but better as a lane pusher.


ty sir
can play today 6-8pm central while gf in class
will probably pick up nazeebo or just keep playing falstad
also will rather play with ai since internet at school is spotty as fuck

This post was edited by itzpookiie on Oct 27 2015 10:41am
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Quote (Eternal_Amaranth @ Oct 27 2015 06:10am)
Ok

Please stop. Your posts are extremely annoying to read.

What the fuck does the meta have to do with anything? What do tournament win rates have to do with anything? These guys aren't playing that shit. Nobody here is good enough to be in those tournaments. Stop referencing what the best players in the world are playing.

KT and Jaina are both good. Zeratul has his place and Nova is pretty bad..


If you want to use the logic that "hurr durr no one is capable of top level play here" then honestly ALL heroes are good. Seriously, if you are saying that you suck and you know it then just play the hero you feel you do the best with. It literally DOESNT MATTER what you play if you're using this reasoning.

When people ask what hero they should buy, they are typically looking for one of two things (Sometimes both) being either who's the most fun to play or who kicks the most ass. People typically have more fun when they are winning and improving their rank/MMR so it is usually a safe bet to recommend the best heroes.

Guess what else? The best heroes are the ones the professional players are using. Pretty simple logic really.

If you're upset because you are awful at this game and incapable of playing heroes to the maximum potential or you just can't figure out how to use google and learn what comps these certain heroes in then don't take it out on me.

Also, if my posts hurt your feelings so much...I am fairly certain you can block me so you won't see them anymore.


Anyway OP, back to the topic....I didn't have much time to explain earlier but Jaina is amazing for her damage output and versatility. You can literally spec her with a version of block, you can get iceblock, you can give her a root or make enemies vulnerable....and finally her infinite chase potential with all her slows really makes her favored IN THE META.

KT has awesome damage....like.....insane damage/wave clear. He can wipe half the team if your opponents aren't careful (He's also one of the higher picked heroes if you follow the meta).

Nova is pretty bad but very fun in QM....I imagine they will work on a way to make her a little more useful without over doing it soon since people have been complaining about her for so long and she's never picked in tournaments.

Zeratul is a pretty good niche hero and would probably suit a LoL player of your skill level very well in the sense that his level 13 wormhole talent was recently nerfed and currently requires a high level of mechanical skill/positioning to pull off his entire rotation in the shortened window.

Other high power heroes that you would do well with are Sonya, Raynor, or Uther if you need a support.


Oh yeah, to the other cry baby guy....the OP was a Master player in LoL...on a real server....so he's probably more mechanically gifted than a lot of the professional hots players that never made it beyond D1/NA (That means the meta is actually important for him since he is capable of playing at that high of a level....DERP).
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Oct 27 2015 01:21pm
^

TL DR. I did read the first and last lines though.

I know OP and play HotS and Hearthstone with him nearly every day. Your argument is pretty invalid. The meta doesn't matter to him because we play QM. I believe his main concern is playing a hero that doesn't suck dick and is generally considered to be Tier 1 / 2.

This post was edited by Eternal_Amaranth on Oct 27 2015 01:25pm
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Oct 27 2015 01:30pm
If you QM with Nova you also have a Nova in your opponenets team.

KT and Jaina are on a similar level.
KT is a great burster and takes advantage of teams sticking together too much, he can escape with proper E use, Phoenix can be spammed.
KT weaknesses is that he is immobile if he is attacked from 2 sides is difficult to escape under level 20.
If you play HL you should prefer KT.

Jaina is a weaker burster but the Jainas advantage is slow, vulnerability, Ice Block(great when being focussed in teamfights), Freeze.
Problem with Jaina are larger cooldowns, the inability to escape attacks on lane.
If you play TL you should prefer Jaina, because Ice Block is essential to escape TF ganks.

The question Zerathul/Nova is quiet simple, both can burst down squishy characters really fast. Zera can escape but also needs to roam far more.
Nova is something you would only pick last or in unconventional stun TCs, because nova can't escape and lane experience isn't existing.
This is fatal when you are against TLV and they create a 3,5 level gap early.

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