I pretty much main muradin using a double throw build

muradin is a good warrior but not as strong vs double mage comps. I don't know what double throw build is either....but I am assuming you are referencing his Haymaker ult?

Naw it's the return mana and hammer can hit 2 targets.
I go
L1 infused storm Nice to keep mana up so im not running around without the ability to use skills w.o needing to HS tele
L4 Crowd control [I really like this for clearing enemy minion lanes.
L7 Peircing bolt. Once this is unlocked basically i go to a lane and get free mana to cast more thunderclap
L10 Avatar [I've picked haymaker once and while i found it useful to knock healers out of the fight for a second or 2 it's not very useful. though it does knockback dragons which is nifty when defending
L13 thunderstrike, Really good for maps with terrors/dragons, idk if im liking it on other maps though very rarely do i hit one thing with it.
L16 Stoneform
L20 rewind



I have noticed when i face Jaina+Kael or valla i basically never get close enough to do much and they stay far enough away that they are unstuned by the time i reach them to attack

This post was edited by Exemplary on Oct 11 2015 05:39pm

You want to take the attack speed reduction level 1 talent, level 4 take the second thunder clap talent, you got 7/10 right and 13/16/20 are all situational.

You don't want to play Muradin vs a KT/Jaina comp. He's a lot better vs raynor/lili/naz

What class hard counters jaina/kt?

Stitches with the level 1 ability damage reduction talent is good especially if you hook a KT or Jaina they have no escapes until late game so they are pretty much insta-dead if your team isn't awful.

You wanna counter Jaina/KT-->Valla, Illi, Nova, Zera and now even Sonya. Sonya became one of the best characters with the medic patch.

Stit got better but is still pretty weak.


With the medic Patch you should consider learning Tass, Tyrande and Sonya. Ignore the haters at pick.

The next nerf gonna be Uther imo. That's pretty much the very first pick in every TL game, because divine shield if OP.

I think the next nerf gonna be on kaelthas or li li

divine shield is op tho

Im fairly decent jungling with illidan then popping in for team fights.
Valla im still getting good at
my buddy showed me the op sonya build and it's hella fun. Soak dmg like a motherfucker
I've also started learning to play LILI she seems very easy and straight forward. Dodge + get ur auto attacks off on heros always

i wouldnt play Valla
she just isnt good right now