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Jun 21 2015 06:21am
So the 2nd hero I'm learning in detail is Sylyvas.

Now Ive seen a ton of builds online and they vary in a number of ways. I tried one last night and it seemed ok, but very hard to get teammates to support you in solo que.

I'm running:

With the Wind
Envenom
Unstable Poison (heres one of the ones Im not sure about)
Wailing arrow
Evasive Fire
Cold Embrace
Defening Blast

I checked hotslogs and these tend to be the more common choices but a few talent slots (level 7, level 16, level 20) have some almost 50/50 popularity


I find in solo que I'm having a tough time getting teammates to let me lane farm. Usually a sgt or a Raynor says "no I'm doing it go bot".

Am I better off specing a more hero-damaging build as opposed to balanced? Is there a specific build that allows her to be a semi-powerful assassin-like hero? Do I even want to go that route?

Thanks.

(More for general discussion than anything else, stuck in a lecture today)

This post was edited by TheDutchMan1443 on Jun 21 2015 06:30am
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Jun 21 2015 07:31am
Quote (TheDutchMan1443 @ Jun 21 2015 07:21am)
So the 2nd hero I'm learning in detail is Sylyvas.

Now Ive seen a ton of builds online and they vary in a number of ways. I tried one last night and it seemed ok, but very hard to get teammates to support you in solo que.

I'm running:

With the Wind
Envenom
Unstable Poison (heres one of the ones Im not sure about)
Wailing arrow
Evasive Fire
Cold Embrace
Defening Blast

I checked hotslogs and these tend to be the more common choices but a few talent slots (level 7, level 16, level 20) have some almost 50/50 popularity


I find in solo que I'm having a tough time getting teammates to let me lane farm. Usually a sgt or a Raynor says "no I'm doing it go bot".

Am I better off specing a more hero-damaging build as opposed to balanced? Is there a specific build that allows her to be a semi-powerful assassin-like hero? Do I even want to go that route?

Thanks.

(More for general discussion than anything else, stuck in a lecture today)


Thing I noticed about sylvannas is for the most part she doesn't really get increased damage against heroes much
so, I typically build as a pusher since he hero damage will be good either way


for my skill setup I do http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/sylvanas#pAGD

Evasive fire isn't bad but I prefer more dps output.
specially since you're ranged

Just my opinion tho
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Jun 21 2015 07:39am
Quote (Conspire @ Jun 21 2015 08:31am)
Thing I noticed about sylvannas is for the most part she doesn't really get increased damage against heroes much
so, I typically build as a pusher since he hero damage will be good either way


for my skill setup I do http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/sylvanas#pAGD

Evasive fire isn't bad but I prefer more dps output.
specially since you're ranged

Just my opinion tho



Hmmm this looks like a really good push build. Maybe I'll just have to ignore the people telling me to go elsewhere and just force myself in there.

Im gonna play a few rounds vs AI with this tonight and get a feel for it
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Hmmm this looks like a really good push build. Maybe I'll just have to ignore the people telling me to go elsewhere and just force myself in there.

Im gonna play a few rounds vs AI with this tonight and get a feel for it


lol I'm top of Siege and Hero dmg with this build, every game.
It clears insanely fast, it kills camps solo by like level 4 or 5. You can solo lane the whole time even against 2 people.

It really is a fun and awesome build.
can swap out envenom for the extended stun build which is honestly better but, I like to help my team with dps sometimes
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Jun 21 2015 08:14am
Quote (Conspire @ Jun 21 2015 08:45am)
lol I'm top of Siege and Hero dmg with this build, every game.
It clears insanely fast, it kills camps solo by like level 4 or 5. You can solo lane the whole time even against 2 people.

It really is a fun and awesome build.
can swap out envenom for the extended stun build which is honestly better but, I like to help my team with dps sometimes


I was originally using that extra stun time talent but was told by teammates not to lol.

It was fun, being able to completely lock down a merc camp solo just by shooting each of them in order. I just find that in quick matches everyone wants to be the superstar and you end up with Sgts who want to solo lane and get ganked super easy lol

I tried hero que last night with Jaina and got absolutely thumped. Kept having our team grab 4 assassins and a brightwing lol so i wanted to play some sylyvas so that I can better manage the PvE aspect of the round.

Ive played 85 ish Jaina games but already Sylyvas (to me) feels more important to our team's chance of winning.

Thanks for the tips
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Jun 21 2015 08:17am
The level 7 picks depends on the map.
I pick Lifedrain most of the time, because it saves you in 1 on 1.
In maps like Mines I take unstable poison. Another map I tend to pick poison is the Raven map since it helps a lot when you are cursed.

On level 13 it depends how much slow your team has. The next pick is Blood for Blood and Bolt of the Storm because the double tap escape is often too slow.

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Jun 21 2015 08:36am
Quote (Str1k3 @ Jun 21 2015 09:17am)
The level 7 picks depends on the map.
I pick Lifedrain most of the time, because it saves you in 1 on 1.
In maps like Mines I take unstable poison. Another map I tend to pick poison is the Raven map since it helps a lot when you are cursed.

On level 13 it depends how much slow your team has. The next pick is Blood for Blood and Bolt of the Storm because the double tap escape is often too slow.


So is blood for blood generally better than the 25% vilnerability aoe bleed from cold embrace? I guess at that stage of the game its less about farming exp and more about team fights
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Jun 21 2015 08:41am
Quote (TheDutchMan1443 @ Jun 21 2015 09:36am)
So is blood for blood generally better than the 25% vilnerability aoe bleed from cold embrace? I guess at that stage of the game its less about farming exp and more about team fights


BfB should be picked on any character you're playing

I have never seen a skill that can replace it.
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Jun 21 2015 12:33pm
Well warriors like Anub prefer Imposing Presence over BfB.
BfB isn't that good on warriors.


At level 13-14 it's more important to remove heroes from play for 40+ sec.
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Jun 21 2015 12:58pm
Quote (Conspire @ Jun 21 2015 08:45am)
lol I'm top of Siege and Hero dmg with this build, every silver/bronze game


yeah
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