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Nov 30 2022 12:14pm
1. posting twice in separate threads you didn't create - There are many scenarios where it is legitimate to post 2-3 times in rapid succession (1 example below). Flood control should be adjusted to activate only after 2-3 posts. The idea of setting flood control to 1 makes zero sense. If flood control is designed to protect the site against malicious bot activity or someone just going bananas then setting flood control to limit 2 will fulfill that goal equally as well as setting flood control to limit 1. This reduces trade friction and frustration for legitimate traders, while still protecting against crazy spam attacks.

I cannot imagine that flood control was initiated to help with site traffic, but if it was, it is 2022, I would hope the site can handle some users posting twice fairly quickly, the infrastructure of the internet has come a long way in 20 years. But I doubt this is the reason for flood control, most likely its spam bot protection.

(Example: its ladder reset day, you don't want to waste time, your gearing out a sorc, and you find a couple of threads that each have items you need, and the prices are great. You post to one thread to bin, you go back to the other one but flood control won't let you post. By the time you can someone else has already done a bin)

2. private messages - you should be allowed to reply quickly to an infinite number of messages 1 time without flood control. To be clear on this ruleset, you cannot send multiple new messages, you cannot reply twice to the same message - both of these would trigger flood control. But if you log in and have 8 new messages, you should be allowed to respond to all of these as fast as you want to clear your inbox. There is no feasible way for a spam bot to take advantage of this.

3. Users should be prohibited from making back to back posts in any thread. This would both (A) help enforce the rules (B) add a little bit of protection against a spam bot attack as well, even with a slight loosening to flood control. Obviously you could go post in multiple different threads, but as long as flood control is set to 2-3 that wouldn't get far or do anything meaningful.

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Nov 30 2022 02:33pm
No poll but also voted no.

I don't see any valid reason why it's necessary to change. Everyone is playing by the same rules.
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No poll but also voted no.

I don't see any valid reason why it's necessary to change. Everyone is playing by the same rules.


ok so ignore reasons stated, give no counter reasons or reasons to substantiate current logic of system, just arbitrarily say no.

Yeah . . .
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Nov 30 2022 03:14pm
Disagree. This isn't a StarCraft game measuring its KPI on actions per second. Take your time, think carefully, and make your PM or reply.

Not all of us are running bots and need to sell 40 characters worth of materials at once to 30 different purchasers.

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Disagree. This isn't a StarCraft game measuring its KPI on actions per second. Take your time, think carefully, and make your PM or reply.

Not all of us are running bots and need to sell 40 characters worth of materials at once to 30 different purchasers.


As stated above the proposal is to alter from post response limit of 1 before triggering flood control to post limit 2. So botting/selling 30-40 different items at once is not relevant to this thread.

During a ladder reset things move fast. It is not uncommon to see two solid items at solid prices that you want to buy i.e. a shako and a spirit. You bin 1, go to bin another and miss the second because flood control. Your 100% legit. Your 1 player, and for no good reason you get screwed over.

I understand if your a noob or a moron, you might need to slow down. But if your trying to play this game at a high level at a ladder reset then this flood control after 1 post response is completely pointless and screws over legit players.

EDIT: actually the flood control doesn't even hurt a bot seller with automated listings. Just add to your bot rule set to auto list at intervals that don't violate flood control. SO you have a rule set that isn't relevant to those bots, but hurts legit players. It is just idiotic.

This post was edited by softcoresux on Nov 30 2022 03:23pm
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ok so ignore reasons stated, give no counter reasons or reasons to substantiate current logic of system, just arbitrarily say no.

Yeah . . .


I just stated I didn't believe any of your reasons are valid. Don't take it as a personal attack, because it isn't.

Edit: Nobody is forcing you to use these forums to trade either.

For the average d2jsp user, this isn't necessary whatsoever and would be annoying to code/implement.

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I just stated I didn't believe any of your reasons are valid. Don't take it as a personal attack, because it isn't.

Edit: Nobody is forcing you to use these forums to trade either.


Yeah, you stated no reasons why my reasons aren't valid. Not taking it as a person attack, just dumbfounded at your dismissal of valid reasons with no explanation.

Sort of like dealing with a religion or something. Not so concerned with your "belief" as with some kind of logic or reason.

If I'm a legit player who wants to buy a couple of items quickly at a ladder reset why shouldn't I be able to? There is no valid reason to keep flood control at limit 1 post. it serves zero purpose. There are legit reasons for a legit player to want to buy 2 items quickly, especially at ladder reset.

If I had 5fg for every time flood control screwed me over on missing a bin, I'd have another 1k fg probably. It is annoying and it is frustrating and it is stupid.
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Yeah, you stated no reasons why my reasons aren't valid. Not taking it as a person attack, just dumbfounded at your dismissal of valid reasons with no explanation.

Sort of like dealing with a religion or something. Not so concerned with your "belief" as with some kind of logic or reason.

If I'm a legit player who wants to buy a couple of items quickly at a ladder reset why shouldn't I be able to? There is no valid reason to keep flood control at limit 1 post. it serves zero purpose. There are legit reasons for a legit player to want to buy 2 items quickly, especially at ladder reset.

If I had 5fg for every time flood control screwed me over on missing a bin, I'd have another 1k fg probably. It is annoying and it is frustrating and it is stupid.


Okay here you go then.

For the average d2jsp user, this isn't necessary whatsoever and would be annoying to code/implement.


Like I said, everyone is on the same playing field. Hell actually no, people with warn have a higher flood control length.

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Okay here you go then.

For the average d2jsp user, this isn't necessary whatsoever and would be annoying to code/implement.


Code for flood control is already there, just need to alter number of posts to trigger it. I would estimate a decent coder could implement this change easily.

It is very impactful to traders such as myself who engage in greater than a half million forum gold worth of trading in a ladder season, so maybe spend 5 minutes to click a few buttons and slightly alter some code to make the system better for your power users. There is zero drawback to doing so.

What your really saying is it doesn't impact you so your attitude is f everyone else that it does impact. Which is typical, but does prevent things from improving.

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