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#1
Oct 9 2021 01:00pm
Knowing who previously was a Scammer individual is always nice so you can steer clear of them within trades etc.
Regardless of them paying the scam back its always nice to know who you are dealing with or the history they have had in the past.
I personally think that once you have receive the scammer tag you should no longer have access to change your JSP name to start a new reputation. Thoughts?


/edit was given examples on why locked shouldn't be lumped into this so editing the post to have it consist solely of Scammer tags!


This post was edited by Everleigh on Oct 9 2021 01:05pm
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Oct 9 2021 01:02pm
while i do think that scamming is really awkward the mindset of once a criminal always a criminal is no good. voted no
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Oct 9 2021 01:04pm
Quote (Everleigh @ 9 Oct 2021 14:00)
Knowing who previously was a Scammer/Locked individual is always nice so you can steer clear of them within trades etc. Regardless of them paying the scam back its always nice to know who you are dealing with or the history they have had in the past. I personally think that once you have received these ranks (not just a temporary hold lock while under investigation) you should no longer have access to change your JSP name to start a new reputation. Thoughts?


If a user gets unlocked and their scammer tag removed it's because they've paid back their scams and have shown changed behaviour - much like how there is no "mark" on users who scammed in the past and have been unlocked, there won't be any restrictions put in place on users who have reformed and fixed their wrong doings.
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Oct 9 2021 01:06pm
Voted no, because some people do make mistakes and end up making them right. I see no need to punish someone who decided to do the right thing.

This post was edited by LoveBear on Oct 9 2021 01:07pm
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Oct 9 2021 01:07pm
Quote (iWorshiptheBlahaj @ Oct 9 2021 12:02pm)
while i do think that scamming is really awkward the mindset of once a criminal always a criminal is no good. voted no


That doesnt necessarily mean they will do it again. But if someone has a history of doing specific activites im not going to have them within my realm/life. Doesnt mean im stating theyll do it again but its nice to know who you are dealing with in the first place. But thank you for the vague input

Quote (eerock @ Oct 9 2021 12:04pm)
If a user gets unlocked and their scammer tag removed it's because they've paid back their scams and have shown changed behaviour - much like how there is no "mark" on users who scammed in the past and have been unlocked, there won't be any restrictions put in place on users who have reformed and fixed their wrong doings.


Ah, thanks for the input eerock
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Oct 9 2021 01:08pm
Quote (LoveBear @ Oct 9 2021 12:06pm)
Voted no, because some people do make mistakes and end up making them right. I see no need to punish someone who decided to do the right thing.


Being unable to change a name you decided to create isnt necessarily a punishment, also committing a crime there is always a punishment on top of some sort of fine. So i see zero difference there.
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Oct 9 2021 01:12pm
Quote (Everleigh @ Oct 9 2021 03:08pm)
Being unable to change a name you decided to create isnt necessarily a punishment, also committing a crime there is always a punishment on top of some sort of fine. So i see zero difference there.


How is taking away a right to change your name not a punishment? :Bonk:
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Oct 9 2021 01:13pm
Quote (Everleigh @ Oct 9 2021 02:07pm)
That doesnt necessarily mean they will do it again. But if someone has a history of doing specific activites im not going to have them within my realm/life. Doesnt mean im stating theyll do it again but its nice to know who you are dealing with in the first place. But thank you for the vague input



Ah, thanks for the input eerock


vague input? the mediator agrees and i was being very transparent with your intentions. being able to reform your wrong doings is not something you should be permanently shamed for. most reformed scammers went thru a tedious process to get it back other than say, make a multi like most of the scammers in d2r are doing. we have mediators and forum trade rules for this very reason
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Oct 9 2021 01:14pm
Quote (LoveBear @ Oct 9 2021 12:12pm)
How is taking away a right to change your name not a punishment? :Bonk:


I was stating there are two ways to look at it, in the first place you chose the name initially.

In the second place you committed said action so you receive a punishment regardless of paying it back.

in real life you don't just rob a convenience store then the next day go back and give them the money and nothing happens.
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Oct 9 2021 01:15pm
Quote (iWorshiptheBlahaj @ Oct 9 2021 12:13pm)
vague input? the mediator agrees and i was being very transparent with your intentions. being able to reform your wrong doings is not something you should be permanently shamed for. most reformed scammers went thru a tedious process to get it back other than say, make a multi like most of the scammers in d2r are doing. we have mediators and forum trade rules for this very reason


You have been here for less then a month, so quick question is how would you even know what the process is? lol
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