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Mar 5 2021 05:18pm
Theme 1: Trading Update

1) It would be pretty sure in the interest of all users to have any kind of livechat for the trades in d2jsp. Best option would be an forum-intern
livechat (maybe only for "vip" users, which could be a extra rank to buy with monthly subscription) or atleast the possibility to chat via any kind
of known software like discord, skype, whatsapp, telegramm or whatever. Just to safe a lot of time. Ofc its still a must to have all important info
about the trades and proofs in jsp topic or pms! Imagine I have as a wow service seller 5 seperate clients in jsp. Its absolutely impossible to
manage them fast enough before my mailbox of 50! space is full and i dont have enough space for the important "proof pms" because i need to still
manage deals and chat with clients via pm. And no, the possiblity of expand the few more mail spaces wont help much. Another big problem which
could be "fixed" is that we dont have on jsp autom. saving of sent pms, which often results in a missing proof when traders got scammed. They forgot
to set the "mark" to save the pm and cant show a proof screenshot what they sent to the scammer. No wonder that most traders forget to click that mark
after beeing bored sending tons of pms until a deal is finally done. With an livechat possibility you always could check the history to have a more
traderfriendly plattform. Even if the "livechat idea" will never be a thing, it should be possible to autom. safe pms and if the sentbox is full no
more sent pms get saved and you need to delete, as we do with earned pms. If thats a problem for the server-performance, then probably it still would be
better to lower inbox to 25 (basicly) and add also 25 "sent" pm-box. Less chance of getting scammed should be in the interest of all users and admins/mods.


Theme 2: WoW Section Update

1) The Sticky "World Of Warcraft Trading Rules" is recently listed only in 2 of the 4 wow sections. Please also paste them here:
- Classic US Server Trading: https://forums.d2jsp.org/forum.php?f=367
- Classic Europe Server Trading: https://forums.d2jsp.org/forum.php?f=368

2) These WoW Trading Rules https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=54649244&f=278 are not 100% evident if its allowed to buy or sell services
as piloted/accountplayed (seller play buyer char) on the buyers accounts or if only selfplays (client play his char) is allowed. There is a red "warn explanation" but
for me it is not clear enough if this is just a informative warn for everyone or a "piloted/accountplay bann" for jsp-trading.

3) Gold Trading is only via face to face trading allowed in these rules. I am a professional wow booster and gold seller since 6 years and
can tell you that face to face trading have the highest chance for a "punishment" from blizzard, besides the two other more common methods
"auction house" and "mail" trading. I know a ton of clients which never wanna trade via trade window because they are scared of punishments,
so i think it would be more fair to let the buyers choose which method they prefer for the gold trade.

4) I heard (not sure if thats really a must in jsp-trading) that both users (buyer and seller) needs to whisper each other the jsp-names ingame.
WoW is full of automated whisper/spam/report filters. Its a absolutely no go imo to let traders whisper their jsp names! Its super
risky to talk ingame about any kind of boosts/trades/usernames from trading-plattform which gets managed outside of the game. This whole
"trading guideline" should be polished imo. I think this guideline would be advantageous for every user:

- Clarify the deal via PM
- Post in the topic the deal
- Buyer PM all important information to seller (example gold trading: method, charname, server, faction, amount, price, time of trading etc)
- Seller mail or auction house or face to face trade
- Seller need to screenshot or record a video (with all important information like charname, server, faction etc) of sending the gold as proof
- Buyer send FG before or after he earned the gold dependend on their deal
- Seller leave a feedback in topic about the finished deal for other users
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Mar 6 2021 03:46am
Quote (Dazer_Boosting @ Mar 5 2021 06:18pm)
Theme 1: Trading Update

1) It would be pretty sure in the interest of all users to have any kind of livechat for the trades in d2jsp. Best option would be an forum-intern
livechat (maybe only for "vip" users, which could be a extra rank to buy with monthly subscription) or atleast the possibility to chat via any kind
of known software like discord, skype, whatsapp, telegramm or whatever. Just to safe a lot of time. Ofc its still a must to have all important info
about the trades and proofs in jsp topic or pms! Imagine I have as a wow service seller 5 seperate clients in jsp. Its absolutely impossible to
manage them fast enough before my mailbox of 50! space is full and i dont have enough space for the important "proof pms" because i need to still
manage deals and chat with clients via pm. And no, the possiblity of expand the few more mail spaces wont help much. Another big problem which
could be "fixed" is that we dont have on jsp autom. saving of sent pms, which often results in a missing proof when traders got scammed. They forgot
to set the "mark" to save the pm and cant show a proof screenshot what they sent to the scammer. No wonder that most traders forget to click that mark
after beeing bored sending tons of pms until a deal is finally done. With an livechat possibility you always could check the history to have a more
traderfriendly plattform. Even if the "livechat idea" will never be a thing, it should be possible to autom. safe pms and if the sentbox is full no
more sent pms get saved and you need to delete, as we do with earned pms. If thats a problem for the server-performance, then probably it still would be
better to lower inbox to 25 (basicly) and add also 25 "sent" pm-box. Less chance of getting scammed should be in the interest of all users and admins/mods.


Theme 2: WoW Section Update

1) The Sticky "World Of Warcraft Trading Rules" is recently listed only in 2 of the 4 wow sections. Please also paste them here:
- Classic US Server Trading: https://forums.d2jsp.org/forum.php?f=367
- Classic Europe Server Trading: https://forums.d2jsp.org/forum.php?f=368

2) These WoW Trading Rules https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=54649244&f=278 are not 100% evident if its allowed to buy or sell services
as piloted/accountplayed (seller play buyer char) on the buyers accounts or if only selfplays (client play his char) is allowed. There is a red "warn explanation" but
for me it is not clear enough if this is just a informative warn for everyone or a "piloted/accountplay bann" for jsp-trading.

3) Gold Trading is only via face to face trading allowed in these rules. I am a professional wow booster and gold seller since 6 years and
can tell you that face to face trading have the highest chance for a "punishment" from blizzard, besides the two other more common methods
"auction house" and "mail" trading. I know a ton of clients which never wanna trade via trade window because they are scared of punishments,
so i think it would be more fair to let the buyers choose which method they prefer for the gold trade.

4) I heard (not sure if thats really a must in jsp-trading) that both users (buyer and seller) needs to whisper each other the jsp-names ingame.
WoW is full of automated whisper/spam/report filters. Its a absolutely no go imo to let traders whisper their jsp names! Its super
risky to talk ingame about any kind of boosts/trades/usernames from trading-plattform which gets managed outside of the game. This whole
"trading guideline" should be polished imo. I think this guideline would be advantageous for every user:

- Clarify the deal via PM
- Post in the topic the deal
- Buyer PM all important information to seller (example gold trading: method, charname, server, faction, amount, price, time of trading etc)
- Seller mail or auction house or face to face trade
- Seller need to screenshot or record a video (with all important information like charname, server, faction etc) of sending the gold as proof
- Buyer send FG before or after he earned the gold dependend on their deal
- Seller leave a feedback in topic about the finished deal for other users


Really doesn't look like youre too busy on here you couldnt take 1 min to delete pms as you continue the convo.

Jsp already had a live chat before which was very rarely used. Thus they got rid of it.

With that part being said, no one is gonna pay for the slot to have the ability. And anyone is of course able to continue a convo on another chatting service like discord, as long as they both agree.

I dont play wow so theme 2 im unsure of those things trading wise but looks like a good idea to me.

Goodluck.

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Mar 6 2021 04:17am
Quote (Ruthless187g @ 6 Mar 2021 10:46)
Really doesn't look like youre too busy on here you couldnt take 1 min to delete pms as you continue the convo.

Jsp already had a live chat before which was very rarely used. Thus they got rid of it.

With that part being said, no one is gonna pay for the slot to have the ability. And anyone is of course able to continue a convo on another chatting service like discord, as long as they both agree.

I dont play wow so theme 2 im unsure of those things trading wise but looks like a good idea to me.

Goodluck.



Its allowed to chat via discord etc besides jsp with users? I didnt find any rule about it and see rarely contacts from users.
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Mar 6 2021 04:20am
Quote (Dazer_Boosting @ Mar 6 2021 05:17am)
Its allowed to chat via discord etc besides jsp with users? I didnt find any rule about it and see rarely contacts from users.


Usually its best to keep the convos where they originated.

If ya start on jsp, usually best to keep it there for your own protection.

However a lot of people tend to bring it to discord and such as its easier to type a convo there.

I see no rules against it
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