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Apr 29 2010 01:18pm
Quote (Razzattack @ Apr 29 2010 08:16pm)
Because they're too stupid. They lack cognition. They lack the mental capacity to realise that your bait is actually a trap.

I don't really see how you could identify "the same fish" 6 times... but yeah


all the fishes is diffrent some are bigger some got marks etc its easy to see a diffrent lol
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Apr 29 2010 01:22pm
Btw, just noticed this :D

Quote (iNUKE @ Apr 29 2010 06:41pm)
Now I know why ur whining so much about hunting forums :p


:P Not the case my friend, I find golf INCREDIBLY tedius and Tennis incredibly anti-climactic


Quote (ddown @ Apr 29 2010 07:18pm)
all the fishes is diffrent some are bigger some got marks etc its easy to see a diffrent lol


In a lake / river or w/e, I still don't see how you could find EXACTLY the same fish 6 times. Still my point stands, they lack the mental capacity to realise the same thing will hurt them. The stove is hot scenario doesn't apply to fish, they don't understand

Quote (Jct @ Apr 29 2010 07:16pm)
Well, if/when I become a parent I'll know better than to just let my kids roam freely on the internet because I've been brought up in the age of the internet. Parents right now may be naive enough to believe a gaming forum is strictly for gaming. ^_^

Ahh the internet, full of conflicting information:

"
Do fish feel pain?
The world's foremost expert on the subject is Dr. James D. Rose of the University of Wyoming. He's spent 30 years working on questions of neurology, examining data on the responses of animals to painful stimuli. In 2003 Rose published a landmark study in the journal Reviews of Fisheries Science, concluding that animals need specific regions of the cerebral cortex in order to feel pain. And fish do not have them.

But doesn't it hurt to have a hook in your mouth?

There's a big difference between pain and the perception of pain (which scientists call "nociception"). Dr. Rose explained to London's Telegraph newspaper:

"Pain is predicated on awareness … A person who is anaesthetized in an operating theatre will still respond physically to an external stimulus, but he or she will not feel pain. Anyone who has seen a chicken with its head cut off will know that, while its body can respond to stimuli, it cannot be feeling pain."
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I'd like to find and read his study but I'm just too lazy to find it right now. :wacko:


Me too actually...

I suppose it's a grey area. There are plenty of studies that show they do, and I'm sure plenty showing they won't. However, I think we can conclude in hunting, the animals WILL feel pain, however

I also believe parents are in fact, very naiive. A lot is accessible at a few clicks. I google certain words, I can find "grotesque" images in a matter of seconds. I hope I don't get a warn for this (referencing), but stuff such as sour math and blue waffles sound unsuspecting, right? Think again :)

This post was edited by Razzattack on Apr 29 2010 01:23pm
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Apr 29 2010 01:27pm
fishes are stupid and doesnt feel pain in mouth end of story ;)
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Apr 29 2010 01:30pm
Voted Yes, Most ethical Hunters and Fishermen follow the rules and regulations set forth by the DNR and do not waste a single part of the a animal There is no cruelty involved. It’s You vs. Animal in a ritual that has been going on for very long time.
As far as going to the store for food. What if I prefer Venison over the hormones injected beef, chicken and pork that they sell @ the market.

I for one would love a place to talk about the hunts I have been on. The scare I got when a moose caught me by surprise while hunting white tail. There is far more to Hunting and Fishing then just the killing of animals.
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fishes are stupid and doesnt feel pain in mouth end of story ;)


Don't be so dismissive. There has been evidence posted for either side
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Apr 29 2010 01:32pm
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Voted Yes, Most ethical Hunters and Fishermen follow the rules and regulations set forth by the DNR and do not waste a single part of the a animal There is no cruelty involved. It’s You vs. Animal in a ritual that has been going on for very long time.
As far as going to the store for food. What if I prefer Venison over the hormones injected beef, chicken and pork that they sell @ the market.

I for one would love a place to talk about the hunts I have been on. The scare I got when a moose caught me by surprise while hunting white tail. There is far more to Hunting and Fishing then just the killing of animals.


Oh how good of them. They're real heroes, not wasting the animal they went over to and slaughtered in it's home environment. Seriously. How is shooting an innocent animal NOT cruel?

You prefer your meat from bullet riddled carcasses instead, right?

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Apr 29 2010 01:35pm
Vouch.
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Apr 29 2010 01:37pm
Did everyone else get bored? ^^
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Apr 29 2010 01:40pm
Quote (Razzattack @ Apr 29 2010 02:32pm)
Oh how good of them. They're real heroes, not wasting the animal they went over to and slaughtered in it's home environment. Seriously. How is shooting an innocent animal NOT cruel?

You prefer your meat from bullet riddled carcasses instead, right?


Shooting an animal and killing it instantly isn't cruel at all. Sadly, not all hunters can get a 1 shot kill and therefore it does become a bit more cruel. But, look at it this way, it's a lot less cruel to get shot a couple times and bleed out then get ripped to shreds by a bear. :unsure:

Edit:

Afk, time for chemistry lab. :wacko:

This post was edited by Jct on Apr 29 2010 01:41pm
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Apr 29 2010 01:43pm
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Shooting an animal and killing it instantly isn't cruel at all. Sadly, not all hunters can get a 1 shot kill and therefore it does become a bit more cruel. But, look at it this way, it's a lot less cruel to get shot a couple times and bleed out then get ripped to shreds by a bear. :unsure:

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Afk, time for chemistry lab. :wacko:


Going into it's territory and shooting it, completely innocent animal, for enjoyment, is cruel. I don't see how this could be argued any other way

Enjoy your class sir
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