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Nov 19 2021 04:49pm
Quote (Jamaal @ Nov 19 2021 02:46pm)
Using a mediator makes sure that both parties receive on what was agreed upon and prevents scams. What would be the deeper problem?
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I think this member definitely went off topic, and now we are seeing even more similar, off topic responses.


At this point, I would like to close this thread if possible.

This post was edited by TonyZD2R on Nov 19 2021 04:55pm
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Nov 19 2021 05:20pm
Quote (TonyZD2R @ Nov 19 2021 05:49pm)
I think this member ^Whao definitely went off topic, and now we are seeing even more similar, off topic responses.


At this point, I would like to close this thread if possible.


Sorry man, whenever these posts come up people seem to think that I'm somehow against the mediator system when I'm not. They misinterpret what I say and then somehow think that my suggestion is so abolish the mediator system when I'm just hoping that d2jsp is going to do more on the back end to vet new users when they join so we don't need extra "trade metrics" or anything like that.
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Nov 19 2021 05:34pm
Quote (Jamaal @ Nov 19 2021 05:46pm)
Using a mediator makes sure that both parties receive on what was agreed upon and prevents scams. What would be the deeper problem?
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You're misinterpreting my post so I'm not going to waste my time explaining, sorry.
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Nov 19 2021 05:35pm
Quote (MaJor_PaYne @ Nov 19 2021 02:43pm)




Ummm… they did do something. They made the process for mediation simple and available around the clock. It used to be an arduous process — now, it’s ridiculously simple and efficient, and foolish not to use… especially for new members.

I don’t personally care about join dates, wallet size, or how many topics someone has spammed with nonsense to increase their post count. If I don’t know you, I’m not giving first and I will gladly wait for a mediator. If someone doesn’t want to wait for a mediator, find someone else to trade with. Your better off finding a new trader opposed to getting shafted.

People here establish rapport with one another over time and that does correlate to join date, as when you are around longer, you get to know more people, and those people trade with you more willingly. That’s an inherent risk seasoned users opt to take. They understand the risk involved, but they do it among other seasoned users and weight the risk vs reward. As a new user, you typically don’t have this luxury. That’s not what you want to hear, I understand, but that’s just how it is.

Unfortunately, the SA page is filled with 2021’s scamming other 2021’s and that is what people see. It’s sad because mediation is so simple right now to use and literally every single SA was preventable. I honestly don’t know what more JSP could do other than they have already provided.

Bottom line, use a mediator. I have to vote no on this one.


You posted a good point for Whao's argument haha. 3rd paragraph, 4th sentence :D

This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Nov 19 2021 05:37pm
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Nov 19 2021 05:39pm
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You posted a good point forWhao's post haha. 3rd paragraph, 4th sentence :D


It's like they think that the admins can't fix the problem with how easy it is to make a multi and that the only solution is to use a mediator. Have fun being a new user trying to use a mediator when the item you're trading is under 100fg.
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Nov 19 2021 07:32pm
Quote (Whao @ Nov 19 2021 03:39pm)
It's like they think that the admins can't fix the problem with how easy it is to make a multi and that the only solution is to use a mediator. Have fun being a new user trying to use a mediator when the item you're trading is under 100fg.


Having a high value of transparency between admins/moderators and users will always prevail. The lack of it creates small pockets of doubt that decay over time and allow this community to fester.

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