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Jan 4 2013 09:27pm
With them still being able to post it gives the mediators and people who are watching over said user more insight on what they are doing. If they can't post, they could simply repay the scam, and then scam right away. With them still being able to do most things on the website even with those tags, it can show if they are actually behaving or being an idiot..and if they feel the need to scam again, atleast they will have to wait 6 months or w/e amount of time it is in order to do so.
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Jan 4 2013 09:28pm
Quote (yodakon @ Jan 4 2013 10:13pm)
people are never locked instantly, look in the s.a., it always takes a couple days unless the user scammed multiple people at once.


First off, I never mentioned they were. And I'm fully aware of the process works.

Quote (yodakon @ Jan 4 2013 10:13pm)
They can redeem themselves in sections such as general help if they really want to "redeem" themselves.


So if they choose to find other ways, such as help someone with homework, they're denied that? Or someone very good with programming? Because most cases people with specific problems will be directed to the appropriate subforum for further help.

Quote (yodakon @ Jan 4 2013 10:13pm)
they should of thought in advance about their real life problems before trying to virtually purchasing something and scamming njaguar.


Yea, because people intentionally try to scam the site once they realize their mistake and they need money for more important things like food or gas.

Quote (yodakon @ Jan 4 2013 10:13pm)
Robbers in real life have all the right to live as I do as well, but once they're caught they lose those rights. Do you think these robbers should have little or no punishment?


How is that even relevant to anything I just posted? So criminals lose their rights to live, gotcha. /immediate death sentence for shoplifting.

Quote (yodakon @ Jan 4 2013 10:13pm)
e/ but if they show no remorse and dont mind staying locked, why should they post among those who they scammed and have the same rights as them? Obviously if they still post in the section and use the site regularly, taking away their gold rights and no pm access isn't enough. they need more of an incentive to repay, why not take away more of their rights?


Look up the definition of the word ''Tyranny'' and look at your posts.
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Jan 4 2013 09:37pm
Quote (yodakon @ 4 Jan 2013 23:27)
it's nothing like that at all. People on this site are nto children, they are mostly teenagers,young adults and adults. They should of learned right from wrong.

I admit this wasn't thought through very well but I stick by it. If a user wants to repay a scam they contact a med via their repay thread. They say I have XX coins for xx fg, please make a topic saying this. The med makes the topic and when the med finds a buyer the buyer sends the fg to the med than the scammer gives the coins to the buyer and to prove the trade was done the scammer or buyer must provide a picture with a timestamp. If they want to show they have a positive attitude, why not post in general help where topics are made much more often and users want fast responses. Take away the forum they love to post in as more of an inventive to repay

e/ multi's are made all the time, taking away their posting rights won't increase new accounts. I know people who have tried to make multis and they would always get caught within 10 minutes and get banned. The multis that don't get caught are the ones who have their ip changed


Quote (Hylia @ 4 Jan 2013 23:20)
This is close to the worse Site Suggestion I've yet seen posted.

Locked/Scammer Tagged users need to post in trading sections to repay their scams, if they intend to;
They have to be able to post everywhere in order to show they can have a nice, positive attitude to show they've changed;
To use the forums for its purpose.


You are currently saying that if a kid, for example, lies to his mother, she must take all of its toys, get him to sleep on the couch, etc: AKA punish him on every aspect possible because he did wrong once.

Ridiculous.
No need to say I voted no.

/Oh and, that would lead to having more multis on the site as well.
Great idea. -_____-'


Yes there would be more multis. In which world do you live? :rofl:

And mediators give some of their time to help, they aren't going to do tons of topics and trades and arrangements for the scammers....
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Jan 4 2013 09:38pm
Quote (J_O_H_N @ Jan 5 2013 12:27am)
With them still being able to post it gives the mediators and people who are watching over said user more insight on what they are doing. If they can't post, they could simply repay the scam, and then scam right away. With them still being able to do most things on the website even with those tags, it can show if they are actually behaving or being an idiot..and if they feel the need to scam again, atleast they will have to wait 6 months or w/e amount of time it is in order to do so.


they can see them post in the general help
Quote (mXz @ Jan 5 2013 12:28am)
First off, I never mentioned they were. And I'm fully aware of the process works.



So if they choose to find other ways, such as help someone with homework, they're denied that? Or someone very good with programming? Because most cases people with specific problems will be directed to the appropriate subforum for further help.



Yea, because people intentionally try to scam the site once they realize their mistake and  they need money for more important things like food or gas.



How is that even relevant to anything I just posted? So criminals lose their rights to live, gotcha. /immediate death sentence for shoplifting.



Look up the definition of the word ''Tyranny'' and look at your posts.


than why would you bring up their power going out?

this is just a suggestion, those forums would be useful as well. I'd like this suggestion to mostly be for the gaming forums.

of course they do, they shouldn't be in such of a rush to buy virtual items if they can't even afford the basic necessities, ever hear of people having their cars repo'd? they don't pay the bills because they cant afford it and it gets taken away along with any money they put into the car such as the down payment or upgrades to it.

it's relevant to your post because you said people who steal from others (fg in this case) deserve to post and not have that right taken from them "They have every right to post as you do" I'm merely comparing to what happens in life when one shoplifts, you on the other hand just took it to the extreme with the whole death sentence thing

I know what tyranny means and maybe you're right, I don't like those who scam and take advantage of others and would love to see all of them in jail wasting to nothing. It's not fair that they have the same posting rights as us when they've taken away from people's hard work when they've done nothing

Quote (Hylia @ Jan 5 2013 12:37am)
Yes there would be more multis. In which world do you live? :rofl:

And mediators give some of their time to help, they aren't going to do tons of topics and trades and arrangements for the scammers....


meh, maybe more multi's but they would be banned fast with no chance of being able to scam.

go ahead and scam somebody and get locked than try to make a multi, let me know how fast that multi gets banned

and how much extra time would it take to do the trade?

This post was edited by yodakon on Jan 4 2013 09:39pm
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Jan 4 2013 09:43pm
Quote (yodakon @ 4 Jan 2013 23:38)
they can see them post in the general help

than why would you bring up their power going out?

this is just a suggestion, those forums would be useful as well. I'd like this suggestion to mostly be for the gaming forums.

of course they do, they shouldn't be in such of a rush to buy virtual items if they can't even afford the basic necessities, ever hear of people having their cars repo'd? they don't pay the bills because they cant afford it and it gets taken away along with any money they put into the car such as the down payment or upgrades to it.

it's relevant to your post because you said people who steal from others (fg in this case) deserve to post and not have that right taken from them "They have every right to post as you do" I'm merely comparing to what happens in life when one shoplifts, you on the other hand just took it to the extreme with the whole death sentence thing

I know what tyranny means and maybe you're right, I don't like those who scam and take advantage of others and would love to see all of them in jail wasting to nothing. It's not fair that they have the same posting rights as us when they've taken away from people's hard work when they've done nothing



meh, maybe more multi's but they would be banned fast with no chance of being able to scam.

go ahead and scam somebody and get locked than try to make a multi, let me know how fast that multi gets banned

and how much extra time would it take to do the trade?


All multis aren't banned as fast as you think. :rolleyes:

And there would be no extra time; that system simply does not work.
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Jan 4 2013 09:45pm
Quote (Hylia @ Jan 5 2013 12:43am)
All multis aren't banned as fast as you think. :rolleyes:

And there would be no extra time; that system simply does not work.


I know, those multi's are the ones created on separate ip addresses. But don't you think if the person was able to make a multi that wouldn't get caught right away he would just make one as soon as he got locked?
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Jan 4 2013 11:03pm
great idea thums up. :thumbsup:
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Jan 4 2013 11:34pm
Quote (J_O_H_N @ Jan 4 2013 07:27pm)
With them still being able to post it gives the mediators and people who are watching over said user more insight on what they are doing. If they can't post, they could simply repay the scam, and then scam right away. With them still being able to do most things on the website even with those tags, it can show if they are actually behaving or being an idiot..and if they feel the need to scam again, atleast they will have to wait 6 months or w/e amount of time it is in order to do so.


Not only that, but people tend to like and become attached to the their account after spending so much time getting it unlocked and proving their integrity. Thus, they tend not to scam again.

It's psychology people xD
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Jan 5 2013 02:11am
Bad idea
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Jan 5 2013 02:20am
No. system is good as it is.
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