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Oct 29 2021 10:48pm
I made a site suggestion similar to this and it got shut down without explanation.

I agree that JSP should do the reimbursement and should the scammer decide to repay his debts he can just repay JSP. That's how banks work when you get your account info stolen.

What difference does it make if the scammer pays back the victim or the site? What if the scammer never has any intentions to come back? The victim is out their forum gold indefinitely.

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Oct 29 2021 10:57pm
Quote (brute12 @ Oct 29 2021 09:46pm)
It's just easy to not scam. I think that's the problem. And it's an odd thing to advocate so hard for.


I'm not advocating for scamming as the English in your post indicates. I'm advocating for a reprieve from being scammed if this wasn't entirely clear.
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Oct 29 2021 10:59pm
Quote (OrdinaryGirl @ Oct 29 2021 09:48pm)
I made a site suggestion similar to this and it got shut down without explanation.

I agree that JSP should do the reimbursement and should the scammer decide to repay his debts he can just repay JSP. That's how banks work when you get your account info stolen.

What difference does it make if the scammer pays back the victim or the site? What if the scammer never has any intentions to come back? The victim is out their forum gold indefinitely.


this entirely.
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Oct 29 2021 11:02pm
Quote (ms73 @ Oct 29 2021 11:59pm)
this entirely.


I see what your saying. I wouldn't be opposed to see it happen.
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Oct 29 2021 11:12pm
Hi!

Although it very much upsets me to see new users get scammed, there is a process in place that fixes this. It’s simply requesting a mediator for trades.

The root cause here is user error (not requesting a mediator) not the ability to refund scammed fg.

Scammers can exploit this, and with a little creativity, can double down their scam by not only receiving the item, but also receiving refunded s scammed fg originally believed to have been scammed. For an example, scammed and his friend stage a scam for 10-15k fg (JMOD) they can manipulate the system by stagging a scam and pocketing 15k fg which is a large sum.

Again, I hate to see new users get scammed, but the solution is not to refund them, the solution is preventive action which in this case is requesting a mediator.

Sorry you got scammed brother, hope the user got locked!

-Krawk
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Oct 29 2021 11:20pm
Quote (Krawk @ Oct 29 2021 10:12pm)
Hi!

Although it very much upsets me to see new users get scammed, there is a process in place that fixes this. It’s simply requesting a mediator for trades.

The root cause here is user error (not requesting a mediator) not the ability to refund scammed fg.

Scammers can exploit this, and with a little creativity, can double down their scam by not only receiving the item, but also receiving refunded s scammed fg originally believed to have been scammed. For an example, scammed and his friend stage a scam for 10-15k fg (JMOD) they can manipulate the system by stagging a scam and pocketing 15k fg which is a large sum.

Again, I hate to see new users get scammed, but the solution is not to refund them, the solution is preventive action which in this case is requesting a mediator.

Sorry you got scammed brother, hope the user got locked!

-Krawk


Yes the mediator is always there and I thank those who have put it in place and keep it as a service. I should have just always used one (20/20 hindsight). However, I have hundreds of trade w/o scams and never needed to waste everyone's time w/ a mediator, Basically my solution currently is I am just screwed w/o anything good coming of this situation and now I have to force every single user to trade first or request a mediator and let me tell you, they haven't been so happy about it (I guess it has a bad implication on them?), especially the OG users.

So the echoing effects of "Just used a mediator every time" are a lot more than they seem. I guess that's just the world we live in, at least on this website. Everything has to be done w/o trusting the other user, requiring they trade first or a mediator is used if I want to ensure no users including myself in my transactions are scammed.
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Oct 30 2021 12:53am
They will not implement this. It doesn't really matter how some people feel about it.
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