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Jan 17 2013 02:14pm
Trying to identify what the problem is here. Third party programs and hacks are absolutely not allowed, and if seen within topics can be reported and the thread will be closed.
There is nothing in the rules as far as I can see about unperm items. The methods of making them are against the rules, but not selling them. The only problem that can come from this is unperm as perm sales.
Jsp can't irradiate all dupes. D2 is absolutely filled to the brim with them. If they are identified as such and not marketed as permanent items, and there is still a market for such things, I don't see the problem.

This post was edited by OEM on Jan 17 2013 02:14pm
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Jan 17 2013 02:16pm
This is something more people should contact bnet not jsp.
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Jan 17 2013 02:17pm
Quote (OEM @ Jan 17 2013 02:14pm)
Trying to identify what the problem is here. Third party programs and hacks are absolutely not allowed, and if seen within topics can be reported and the thread will be closed.
There is nothing in the rules as far as I can see about unperm items. The methods of making them are against the rules, but not selling them. The only problem that can come from this is unperm as perm sales.
Jsp can't irradiate all dupes. D2 is absolutely filled to the brim with them. If they are identified as such and not marketed as permanent items, and there is still a market for such things, I don't see the problem.


There is HUGE thing in the rules about unperm items.. Are you serious? There's a Scammer Accusation that get people's accounts LOCKED for using and selling unperm or duped items EVERYDAY..!

This is AGAINST d2jsp rules. And d2jsp CAN remove all the dupes. This is the only form of trading used. If they cannot use these forums, they cannot do anything with their dupes and will eventually stop because of this.


And identifying them as dupes and there not being a problem... Please try and go join a game on East and tell me we don't have a problem. Go to East Ladder Trading and tell me we don't have a problem. Go to Blizzard Tech Support and tell me East doesn't have a problem.

The problem is not items poofing. It is the FTJs and the servers failing because of these dupes and rollbacks. And d2jsp needs to not only address that as a problem, but live up to their rules and laws against 3rd party programs and dupes.



Quote (Historical @ Jan 17 2013 02:13pm)
boycott these sellers, like we did with the big rollback runeword bullshit 2 seasons ago.

dont buy their shit.


Absolutely couldn't agree more.. At 200 a pop for something that was created out of thin air, not even found, I don't see why there are buyers anyways..

This post was edited by Bewts on Jan 17 2013 02:21pm
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There is HUGE thing in the rules about unperm items.. Are you serious? There's a Scammer Accusation that get people's accounts LOCKED for using and selling unperm or duped items.

This is AGAINST d2jsp rules. And d2jsp CAN remove all the dupes. This is the only form of trading used. If they cannot use these forums, they cannot do anything with their dupes and will eventually stop because of this.
And identifying them as dupes and there not being a problem... Please try and go join a game on East and tell me we don't have a problem. Go to East Ladder Trading and tell me we don't have a problem. Go to Blizzard Tech Support and tell me East doesn't have a problem.


Give me a link to where it is in the rules? I honestly can't find it. I know there was a section when I joined, but I can't find it now.
It's not jsp's job to fix East's problem, that's something that Blizzard needs to take into its own hands, which I understand isn't happening.
I just don't see how jsp could effectively determine if an item is duped or not. I know there's some situations where it's extremely obvious, but there's a huge gray area there.

When I played I just avoided the sellers that were doing this.
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Jan 17 2013 02:24pm
Quote (OEM @ Jan 17 2013 02:21pm)
Give me a link to where it is in the rules? I honestly can't find it. I know there was a section when I joined, but I can't find it now.
It's not jsp's job to fix East's problem, that's something that Blizzard needs to take into its own hands, which I understand isn't happening.
I just don't see how jsp could effectively determine if an item is duped or not. I know there's some situations where it's extremely obvious, but there's a huge gray area there.

When I played I just avoided the sellers that were doing this.


No. It isn't their job to fix the server problems. If you read, you'd see that this is not about that.

It is about d2jsp living up to their own rules. If you're going to suspend and warn people for talking about it, then you would absolutely HAVE to suspend and warn those who are DOING IT AND TALKING ABOUT IT OPENLY.

Not only that, but if you're going to LOCK people who have been put in the scammer accusation as a duper, then these people deserve locks... It is that simple. They should not be above the law. I watch this law enforced DAILY on d2jsp. And they seem to slide right through it everytime...
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