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Oct 4 2012 07:10pm
Quote (BeefiestName @ 4 Oct 2012 18:47)
As to how individual guilds arrange their leadership duties, that's not really something I want to try to dictate (as to how it might relate to the forum). The forum needs to exist first. What it becomes or how it evolves would largely be determined by the site and those who populate it. Even though I'm sure I'd love to have texxxmex (my current second) in there with me, I'm not going to assert that as a necessity, because having just the owners would allow meaningful and beneficial discussions to take place. Whether that sub forum community would be made better by the addition of designated co-leaders is a matter for future discussion. How does that person get determined? How do we ensure leaders are not simply allowing the entirety of their membership access? Some degree of exclusivity is needed to ensure that it maintains an above average standard as well as its intended usefulness. It's not to intentionally snub people who work hard or who share joint responsibility in certain guilds, it's just a starting point to work towards overall improvement.


Indeed, that is correct.
But I'd rather have everything set BEFORE the subforum exists. Opening a subforum with ''matter of future discussions'' is just jumping blindly in an adventure. There are around 2200 guild leaders at the moment, and if you cut the ones that are AFK/private guilds/selling/etc, you may have an active 100-150 Guild Leaders (that are MAYBE going to be active). I don't see this number high enough to be worth opening a subforum.

Also, do you have some ideas of what WILL be discussed, and not just maybe's?

I doubt this is going to be as active and helpful you think it will be :(

^_^

This post was edited by Hylia on Oct 4 2012 07:10pm
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Oct 4 2012 08:58pm
Quote (Hylia @ Oct 4 2012 07:10pm)
Indeed, that is correct.
But I'd rather have everything set BEFORE the subforum exists. Opening a subforum with ''matter of future discussions'' is just jumping blindly in an adventure. There are around 2200 guild leaders at the moment, and if you cut the ones that are AFK/private guilds/selling/etc, you may have an active 100-150 Guild Leaders (that are MAYBE going to be active). I don't see this number high enough to be worth opening a subforum.

Also, do you have some ideas of what WILL be discussed, and not just maybe's?

I doubt this is going to be as active and helpful you think it will be :(

^_^


Well, your guess for how many guild owners will participate isn't based on any solid data I can see. From my point of view you're being pessimistic (under 10% participation?). In my view, many failed/afk/selling owners will be granted a new opportunity to succeed with access to the active/more successful ones at hand.

First line of my original post outlines the basic goals and lines of discussion. It would be foolish of me (or anyone) to think I could guess every single possible discussion topic.

I've seen this exact concept in action elsewhere (a much smaller place with far fewer guilds even), and I base my opinion on its usefulness on that prior experience.

For the record, EVERYTHING about a suggestion of this nature will be hypothetical since it's a simple sub-forum and I'm in no position to dictate every last detail. All I am doing is suggesting one possible framework, and providing a list of possible benefits.

At the end of the day, even if you believe it won't be as good as I think it will be, what would the worst possible result be? It's a zero risk endeavor. It takes minimal time/effort to implement, and if it fails to succeed could be just as swiftly taken down.

This post was edited by BeefiestName on Oct 4 2012 08:58pm
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